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The Perfect Killer Is Invisible

 
 
Reply Fri 19 Oct, 2007 12:54 pm
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Reply Fri 19 Oct, 2007 01:02 pm
@theroyprocess,
To: All,

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Fido
 
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Reply Fri 19 Oct, 2007 01:04 pm
@theroyprocess,
The perfect killer is ignorence. No one ever hangs it, but many have crowned it.
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theroyprocess
 
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Reply Fri 19 Oct, 2007 01:26 pm
@theroyprocess,
Fido,
How I wish....(Right was might)...but mischief pays the most instead of
the reverse!
Pythagorean
 
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Reply Fri 19 Oct, 2007 06:31 pm
@theroyprocess,
theroyprocess wrote:


How I wish....(Right was might)...but mischief pays the most instead of
the reverse!


According to Aristotle (my interpretation) right indeed makes right because every activity is aimed at a certain good or goal. In this scheme the existence of evil is dependent upon human ignorance. So the ultimate cause of tyranny is only due to the lack of education regarding good government. Power can be obtained by cooperative means so long as the teaching of good government is institutionalized. And those who seek power are thus able to achieve power within a liberal form of government without oppressing others such as minority groups etc.

It is my opinon that tyranny and injustice grows out of the failure of educational institutions to shape liberally informed citizens and statesmen.

--Pyth
theroyprocess
 
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Reply Fri 19 Oct, 2007 07:08 pm
@Pythagorean,
Pyth,

Given impunity and most importantly...money! People will do anything!
The famous Stanford study showed this. Half the students were jailers
and soon became sadistic...the other student half were prisoners and
suffered real abuse. They stopped the test!

Most people love to blame Adolf Hitler. But he could have done nothing
without the willing cooperation of the people. They said, "I'm only
following orders" right up to the time they were shot or hung!

When kids are smart...you get rebellion! You get the 60's! It is much easier
for politicians to control an exhausted, dumbed down, poisoned, poor,
public. Example:

San Francisco Bay View - From Hiroshima to Iraq, 61 years of uranium wars: A suicidal, genocidal, omnicidal course
Pythagorean
 
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Reply Fri 19 Oct, 2007 07:32 pm
@theroyprocess,
theroyprocess,

That Stanford Study was designed to make middle class American kids look like Fascists. That's the job description of Marxist psychology professors.

If the Stanford Study shows anything it's that young people who have been cheated out of a good education in the classics (Aristotle, Plato, Spinoza, etc,) by their Marxist professors they can be manipulated by those same professors. Why is it news to you that young people are impressionable?

And the same goes with today's MBA's. They are not required to take liberal arts courses before they graduate. This is because all of the 1960's professors have said: "hey hey, ho ho, Western Culture's got to go!" And they reject the teaching of moral values. These same professors are brain-washing kids to think that there's no morality outside of what feels good. When kids are smart you get decency, gentility, you get the 50's.

I don't mean to be harsh but maybe you can agree that if kids get educated in classical liberal moral virtues they wouldn't be so easily manipulated.

--Pyth
theroyprocess
 
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Reply Fri 19 Oct, 2007 08:14 pm
@Pythagorean,
Pyth,

What ever your religion is, your God said , "Be nice....or be sorry" !
Human behavior is habitual. Jim Nabers, who portrayed Gomer Pyle
on TV, I think, played a sophisticated joke on the audience. He said,
"Marine Corpse"....instead of "Marine Corps". There is nothing more
non-political than a corpse! It does not want a thing!

I love Joseph Campbell. They play his film on PBS during pledge drives.
From that TV interveiw. I think the Buddhists have it right. "The problem
is...we are alive" ! If you want to escape suffering...accept all...
non-violence is the password...if you can't help then do no harm....be
nobody" It is harder than you think!
Pythagorean
 
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Reply Fri 19 Oct, 2007 09:02 pm
@theroyprocess,
I find you to be quite an amusing fellow! I have watched Joseph Campbell and what's more I have read Jung. Although that was in the past. I would praise Joseph Campbell if only for his link to Greek mythology. There's nothing wrong with studying the Greeks, as I see it.

Quote:
"The problem
is...we are alive" ! If you want to escape suffering...accept all...
non-violence is the password...if you can't help then do no harm....be
nobody"


This begs the question, is life good? Smile

--Pyth
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Fido
 
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Reply Fri 19 Oct, 2007 09:04 pm
@Pythagorean,
Pythagorean wrote:
According to Aristotle (my interpretation) right indeed makes right because every activity is aimed at a certain good or goal. In this scheme the existence of evil is dependent upon human ignorance. So the ultimate cause of tyranny is only due to the lack of education regarding good government. Power can be obtained by cooperative means so long as the teaching of good government is institutionalized. And those who seek power are thus able to achieve power within a liberal form of government without oppressing others such as minority groups etc.

It is my opinon that tyranny and injustice grows out of the failure of educational institutions to shape liberally informed citizens and statesmen.

--Pyth


Catch 22 friend. No one has to educate a person who is politically powerless, nor give power to one who is uneducated. The unschooled rabble will always be just that, and only that will teach them.
theroyprocess
 
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Reply Fri 19 Oct, 2007 10:04 pm
@Fido,
Pyth,

If there is a good life....by definition...there MUST BE a bad life! Being alive,
we're in the field of time as the Buddhist say...is vs is not, right and left,
up and down, choice is discriminating. To avoid the hell of, " I like...I don't
like" ...and be free of suffering....accept all...the Buddhists say.Smile
Pythagorean
 
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Reply Fri 19 Oct, 2007 10:58 pm
@theroyprocess,
Sounds like a cop-out. The hard choices are there and they will be made by you whether you address them now or not. You will end up making discriminating choices in life in one way or another. As long as you are human and alive then you'll be forced naturally to make discriminating choices. If you ignore this fact at the outset then it seems you are setting yourself up for a fall. The Buddhists are not dealing with reality, they throw a grey net over it and hum...
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Fido
 
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Reply Sat 20 Oct, 2007 06:55 am
@theroyprocess,
theroyprocess wrote:
Pyth,

If there is a good life....by definition...there MUST BE a bad life! Being alive,
we're in the field of time as the Buddhist say...is vs is not, right and left,
up and down, choice is discriminating. To avoid the hell of, " I like...I don't
like" ...and be free of suffering....accept all...the Buddhists say.Smile


A girl told me, that all I bought was time. That is all we've bought. Life is time, and only time. We all have the same life even if some only have it for a moment. Sometimes, short lives can be long with meaning, and long lives can demean all life. In the end we all pay for our lives with our lives, and most of us along the line have no idea of its worth. It is the only value, the only true value we can take from another, or give for another. Since it is the only one we have how do we judge it good or bad? Since we buy it by the inch, and pay as we go, and in the end surrender it to settle our debts; why not economize on the fare? Why not make it easier for the poor to have life with the rich? Why not celbrate life with every breath? Why not judge that every early death condemns us all? Is not death our only enemy compared to which our worst living enemy is our dearest friend? Only you can give a value to your life beyond its average worth. How will you do that judging it bad?
theroyprocess
 
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Reply Sat 20 Oct, 2007 10:26 am
@Fido,
To: Fido,

Our experience on earth is real currency. Joseph Campbell said, "People
via for goods and space" that "what people want is an experience of life"
His interveiw with Bill Moyers is very instructive. Mr. Campbell knew he was
dying at the time and lived for two more months I believe.

What ever you do in life, you can't fool Mother Nature! Some folks say out
loud...depopulation...was decided as a course of action in the 1800's. A
new born baby already has at least 200 man-made chemicals in there blood
stream! Plus man-made radioactive isotopes in ther DNA. The "Tooth Fairy
Project" measures the man-made radioactive Strontium 90 in extracted baby
teeth! And each new generation adds pollution to their body burden.

With both spouses working even two or more jobs just to pay bills, who has
time and energy for kids? Slave wages will not produce what people want.
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