the Origin of Society

Very interesting, but what if the human believes he is not 'free' as such but lives in a capitalist society and has oppotunities to seek his desires

It is called "economy". To achieve a motor vehicle one might begin by digging up some iron ore; then they'd have to build a kiln to smelt the ore and so on, presuming that somebody had already told them how, to begin with.

It is much handier, on the other hand, to find a car salesman just down road because somebody else already did it for us.

-- RH.

Ever wondered why man is the most advanced speacies on earth, they say dolphins are probably as intelligent, but dolphins cant make fire under water!

two kinds of freedom, the freedom of mind, and the freedom of a social member

if the "free" you mentioned is the second one, it is necessary to understand the mechanism of creative ability to answer your question.

Does that mean that is has to be explained to you, Mr. Mind, or do you propose to explain it to us?

I'd like you to explain this to me, because I have a very real problem with it:

"6. When people work for their own needs and wishes, they will not feel tired easily, for they are driven by their needs and wishes."

I happen to work as much for my own needs and wishes as anybody would and well beyond the extent that most would; my time is very much my own to create as I wish to, as I do indeed.

The problem then is to know what to create, what my needs and wishes are. How does one know what to wish for?

The pleasure principle is often invoked but in practice this proves to be remarkably elusive if not dangerous. The pleasure close up is never quite what it appeared to be from a distance, and in my experience impossible to achieve with no regard for the needs and wishes of other people, rather the opposite in fact; I crave appreciation; the tiredness comes as soon as I restrict the feedback loop; the stimulation is because of other people.

--- RH.

In psychological terms our inner most desires are never ment to be realised because once they are (id ego or super ego, one of these) cant handle it because its the seeking to fullfil it that drives us;and it never lives up to expectations!

there are needs of a living body
we can feel upset cause of those needs
the needs will lead to imaginations
or if we meet somethings or someone which can fulfil the needs, we will know clearly what we need as a wish, will, or other known desire

Yes, that sort of need I may well envisage as being remarkably elusive if not dangerous.

"weakness" is the word that comes immediately to mind.

I wonder what "experience and the observation of others " brought you to your conclusions.

Would not the experience be more meaningful if described in direct terms?

People prefer stories to dry analysis.

-- RH.