@Didymos Thomas,
The moderators are debating the meaning of the word "
theology":
Didymos Thomas wrote:Of course you can do theology without dogma.
Aedes wrote:I don't think any theology can be a 100% blank slate,
Didymos Thomas wrote:Granted, this is a loose use of the word theology; typically, theology is done by someone committed to certain dogmas.
Any dictionary or Wikipedia definition would help: "
Theology is the study of the existence or attributes of a
god or gods, or more generally the study of
religion or
spirituality. It is sometimes contrasted with
religious studies: theology is understood as the study of religion from an internal perspective (e.g., a perspective of commitment to that religion), and religious studies as the study of religion from an external (e.g., a
secular) perspective. [ see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theology ]
However, we are supposed to be debating "
The Problem of Religious Philosophy" NOT Theology.
One of the fundamental mistake [quite frequently appears in almost all other branches of philosophy as well as in this one] is that, we are wasting huge amount of time on ambiguous or "loose use of" words. [For example: words like "internal reality", "external reality", "absolute truth", "dogmatic truth", "faith truth" "metaphysical truth" etc etc.]
Other mistake is that, trying to be nice to people with mistaken or irrational claims commentator is almost shies away from giving a rational response:
Let us remember the meaning of "
rationalism" - "practice of testing all religious beliefs and knowledge by reason and logic.
Example of a claim:
NeitherExtreme wrote:What would you all say to someone who had an experience, or experiences, that led them to conclude "rationally" that something spritual exists beyond realm of our normal empircal understandings?
And the right response:
boagie wrote:NeitherExtreme, If you or anyone else who comes to a forum like this, surely knows that your statements are going to be scrutinized, that is what a philosophy forum is about.
The "sitting on the fence" type of response:
Aedes wrote:It may be rational to believe what you have witnessed is true (insofar as you consider your senses and wits reliable), The rational response would be to conclude that your experience is true and is somehow consistent with the universe we've grown to experience and understand.
Another example of mixing "Theology" and "Religious Studies" with "Philosophy of Religion":
Didymos Thomas wrote:First, we can read the Bible in many different ways. Literal readings tend to produce great absurdities; however, one need not read the text literally, and I argue that literal readings are necessarily misguided. I, as a Christian, take serious issue with parts of traditional Christian canon.
Is it necessary to read Bible, Koran or any other "Holy Book" in order to be proficient in the Philosophy of Religion? Let people write all sorts of Holy Books and make all sorts of claims -
our job is to question the validity of claims as it is the case in every other branches of philosophy.
Didymos Thomas says he is a Christian [a follower of Jesus Christ]. I assume he must have a sound reasoning to follow Jesus Christ rather than Mohammed, Krishna, or Zarathustra. If I know this rational reasoning I may follow him as well. But the trouble is that, he has to convince me God [or Gods] exist, Bible is a reliable book, Jesus is what Bible or Church tells us to be [he was not a fictional character but a real and perfectly sane man -even son of God- did all sorts of miracles, resurrected etc.
I ask similar questions to every other religious claims and this I understand is the proper function of philosophy.
Thank you,
democritus