@dadpad,
dadpad wrote:Setanta wrote:Eight knots doesn't qualify as "very fast."
I believe we need to change our mind set. This statement is only true if its made in relation to modern diesel powered boats.
Quote:Ships of Columbus's time would average a little less than 4 knots. Top speed for the vessels was about 8 knots.
The large ships of the 1800's could only go an average of 5 to 6 knots per hour which is less than 10 mph
The fast paced modern world we have today is leading us down a path of elecological destruction and we need to just pull back and slow down a little. If a boat like this can replace only pleasure boats used for day trips we must surely be ahead. A little more diesel remains available for essential shipping, less oil is being poured into the ocean and less co2 (and other chemicals) into the atmosphere.
Right off the bat, let me say that there is no reliable, hard evidence that human-generated carbon dioxide is a major contributing factor to climate change.
I have no problem with slowing down. I'm just pointing out that eight knots is not "very fast." Columbus was sailing in convoy with two caravels, the purpose of which was to carry a much higher proportion of supplies than the main party in
Santa Maria.
Santa Maria herself was a carrack, and a slow, wallowing pig she was. Comparisons to that pathetic expedition aren't very enlightening. When the a replica of the Gokstad ship (a "Viking" vessel) was built in the 1890s, and sailed to the Chicago Colukmbian Exhibition, in honor of the occasion, she sailed on the same course as Columbus until she reached the West Indies. That was a vessel of a design created more than a thousand years ago, and her log reeled off the same distance in three days as Columbus' carrack and two caravels logged in four.
Certainly the lowest of the low--merchant brigs--in the 18th and the early 19th century could only log five or six knots--but so what? You're comparing cart horses to thoroughbreds. A slow naval convoy at the beginning of the 19th century expected to reel off 8 knots from one noon observation to the next, and packet ships and fast frigates expected to average twelve to fourteen knots. Once again, we're talking about wooden hulled sailing ships with none of the advantages of advanced materials and coatings (i.e., "paint") which are used on modern ships.
Once again, i have no problem with slowing down. Once again, eight knots ain't "very fast." And it ain't "very fast" even in comparison to "large ships" in the age of sail. Your source is full of horsie poop, too. The largest ships in the heyday of the age of sail were line of battle ships of the world's navies, and clipper ships in the China trade. They expected those ships to do a hell of a lot better than five or six knots (for information purposes, six knots is seven miles per hour)--even a frigate with a "dirty" hull (i.e., weed encrusted) was expected to do eight knots. As i've already noted,
Flying Cloud averaged more than fifteen knots on July 31, 1851. I find your source suspect.