@Eorl,
I'm reading those sentences with my "tone" in regard to this subject.
You've said so much in those sentences.
@ehBeth,
oh yeah ok, cool, thanks!
(That happens to me all the time, I'll spend three pages trying to explain my point of view and then someone shows up and says it all in a couple words!)
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:
dlowan wrote:But if we CAN cause less suffering, do you think we SHOULD?
I think all sorts of people should do all sorts of things that they can do.
What gives me/my opinions any more value than the people who don't want to do those things I think they should? (and that I'm sure/can prove would benefit them in some way)
Nothing, if you look at it that way.
Just as the opinions of those against slavery, or forcing children to work down mines, or denying women the right to vote and own property had no more value than those who supported those things.
@dlowan,
or eating fuckin whales if you are just bandwagoning on rare species to show off your discretionary spending habits.
@farmerman,
farmerman, is it mainly endangered-ness that concerns you?
(I had a quick squiz back, but didn't see an answer to this.)
This fella was hiking in the Sierra Madres, when he slips, sprains his ankle, and his cell phone goes slithering out of his pocket, over an rock ledge, and is smashed to little bits. So here the guy is stuck up high in the mountains, and he realizes that he's likely to be there until someone notices that he's overdue and sends a search party.
Well, about ten days later, that's what happens, and a search helicopter spots him a couple of days later. He's survived, but just barely. When they find him, they also find the remains of a California condor there, a protected species. Under the circumstances, even the Federal prosecutor tells him the court case will just be a formality.
So, he goes to Federal court, the circumstances are reviewed and, after a stern warning for public consumption, the judge lets him off. As everyone is leaving the courtroom, and the microphones are turned off, the judge gestures to the man, who approaches the bench, and the judge leans over to ask:
"Just between you and me, what does California condor taste like?"
"Well, i'd say is kind of a cross between a Bald Eagle and a Snowy Owl."
@Setanta,
Bad dog.
I've heard you dogs taste like chicken.
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:
I suppose we humans and the world could be better off if more of us could learn to savor cockroaches.
Anyone who would eat cochroaches would probably eat lobster.
@dlowan,
I have a lil' roller for that...
(works good on cat hair as well)
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:
I have a lil' roller for that...
(works good on cat hair as well)
What 's your favorite kind of rock ?
@Rockhead,
Granite can take a good polish.
@Robert Gentel,
To put it as succinctly as possible:
we shoud not eat the species that we like and admire,
especially not the smart ones.
@OmSigDAVID,
Very close...
Again if you think about it, there are probably a half dozen to a dozen kinds of animals which together comprise 90% or more of all the meat humans eat:
Deer and cattle
Ducks, geese, and chickens
sheep and goats
rabbits
pigs
fish
shellfish and bivalves
All of those animals have several things in common. All breed rapidly, tend to live in large groups, with the possible exception of pigs are guided more by instinct than intelligence, and are relatively easily either domesticated or taken as prey. All are used as prey animals by creatures aside from man. A creationist would almost have to believe that all were created as prey animals.
@OmSigDAVID,
so American conservatives are fair game?
excellent
good thing I kept up with my target practice
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:
so American conservatives are fair game?
excellent
good thing I kept up with my target practice
As long as they are free range!!!!!!
@Eorl,
In a sense , what Mr Snake has said sums up the meataterian credo. We raise much of the meat we eat.
Im against killing any animal that has a place in the planets overall qweb of life. (that includes the natural food chains)
So yes, protecting animals from becoming endangered is what Id like to see. I dont think that we should be an agent of extinction, were better than that.
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:In a sense , what Mr Snake has said sums up the meataterian credo. We raise much of the meat we eat.
Im against killing any animal that has a place in the planets overall qweb of life.
(that includes the natural food chains)
So yes, protecting animals from becoming endangered is what Id like to see.
I dont think that we should be an agent of extinction, were better than that.
What is the "overall qweb of life" ?