Has England really become this ridiculous?

Members of the Black Hand secret society assassinated king Alexander I of Serbia, too.
Why do you connect this to the English Fire Arms Act?
(The dynasty is called 'Habsburg', by the way, named after the first counts of Habsburg, from Habsburg Castle/[now) Switzerland, since the 11th century (Count Radbot of Habsburg) until today (Karl Habsburg-Lothringen).

At least, in my case, it did not result in beginning a world war.
Surely, u will admit that.

David

Top cops suspended over alleged dishonest conduct
(ThisIsSurreyToday.com, May 22, 2009)

Two top cops have been suspended for alleged dishonest conduct regarding speeding penalties.

Surrey Police chief superintendent Adrian Harper, the divisional commander for East Surrey division, was suspended, today, (Friday May 22), for alleged dishonest conduct regarding the avoidance of speeding penalties.

West Surrey division's superintendent Johnny Johncox has also been suspended for the same reason.

The suspensions are as a result of a review carried out by Surrey Police Professional Standards Department.

The review looked into the granting of exemptions to police officers and staff for speeding and red traffic signal offences.


Surrey Police said that while the vast majority of exemptions were granted for sound operational reasons, the review raised concerns about the exemption applications and approvals within the Force for a very limited number of cases.

Surrey Police made a referral to the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC), which is now managing the investigation.

The IPCC has approved a file being sent to the Crown Prosecution Service for a decision in relation to prosecution.

ThisIsSurrey has a long record of critisisng some policemen/-women in the county's forces: the publisher (it is said) favoured some others for these posts ...

But: until now, there's no other report about this 'gunn-trial' than the here quoted.

Is the farmer, Tony Martin free yet ?

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Is the farmer, Tony Martin free yet ?

You mean the man who manslaughtered one man and wounded another?
He was released in 2003, after serving (the maximum) three years of his five years sentence.
He's now (again) working with the British Neo-Nazi party BNP (and wanted to become a MP for them -
which is impossible due to his conviction for manslaughter).

Anyone surrendering an illegally held firearm should be questioned discreetly with a view to establishing its history but, unless circumstances exist to give serious cause for concern as to its provenance (for example, if it appears to have been stolen), the person handing it in should not be pressed.

The emphasis should be on creating an environment in which people hand in illegally held firearms.

I wish he 'd chosen to join a libertarian party.
I have no information of whether any exists in England.

OmSigDAVID wrote:

I wish he 'd chosen to join a libertarian party.
I have no information of whether any exists in England.

Leaving aside that the BNP might be all and everything but never a Socialist party - the Liberal Democrats are the main libertarian party in the UK (63 Lib Dem Members of Parliament). [The Liberal Democratic Party was formed in the 80's by a merger of the Liberal Party and the Social Democratic Party.]

I hope that we are using the same definition of "libertarian".

What is the Liberal Democrats' position qua England 's weapons laws?

OmSigDAVID wrote:

I hope that we are using the same definition of "libertarian".

What is the Liberal Democrats' position qua England 's weapons laws?

Well, they are the UK's (aside the NI Alliance Party) members of the EU's European Liberal Democrat and Reform Party and the Liberal International, the liberal ('libertarian') party organisations.

I suppose there's no party besides the extremists in all Europe who share your ideas od "free weapons", David.
But I'm not sure what the official view of the LibDems is.


Oh, and there's really a 'Libertarian Party' in the UK, with less than 300 members, though ...

Celebs show support for ex-soldier's case
(ThisIsSurreyToday.com, November 19, 2009)

An ex-soldier is "overwhelmed" by the frenzy of public support generated by a Surrey Mirror story.

Last week, we reported how Paul Clarke is facing a minimum of five years imprisonment after finding a discarded shotgun and handing it into police.

The 27-year-old from Merstham found the sawn-off shotgun in March this year, handed it in to Reigate police station, where he was arrested immediately.

On November 10, a jury at Guildford Crown Court found him guilty of possessing a firearm " he is now facing a minimum of five years behind bars.

Since the story broke it has caused outrage across the world " and whipped up a frenzy of online debate and support.

Mr Clarke, who spent two years serving in the armoured military in Donchester, said: "It's been mad. I feel like a celebrity. I just want to thank everyone for all their support."

Over the weekend, Mr Clarke's court case was one of the most commented stories on social networking site 'Twitter' " getting more mention than 'Jedward' the controversial X-Factor contestants.

His case caught the attention of several celebrities, including comedians David Mitchell and Simon Pegg, star of 'Shaun of the Dead' and 'How to Lose Friends and Alienate People'.

And, Graham Lineham, creator of the hit TV sit-com Father Ted 'tweeted' in response to other comments on the story.

He wrote: "There'll be enough interest in Paul Clarke now [to] at least shed a little light on [the] situation. Wait for that before pitchforks/petitions".

Bloggers across the world have fiercely debated the 'strict liability' aspect of the law on which Mr Clarke was convicted " where the intention of anybody possessing a firearm is irrelevant.

A facebook group entitled 'Ex-soldier Paul Clarke should not go to jail for handing in a gun', has almost 700 members and his solicitor, Mr Lionel Blackman, has been interviewed on Radio 4 about the case.

Angry readers have also set up online petitions to send to 10 Downing Street, and have been writing to Crispin Blunt MP.

ThisisSurreytoday has also received comments from across the globe.

Mr Clarke said: "The support has just been overwhelming. I've had strangers coming up to me in the street telling me they support me."

But despite the public support, Mr Clarke is convinced he's going to prison.

He said: "The judge has to do his job, and his job is to rule on a conviction.

"I wish I had just thrown the gun in a bush now " however wrong that is. But I wanted to do the right thing."

Quote:

Celebs show support for ex-soldier's case
(ThisIsSurreyToday.com, November 19, 2009)

An ex-soldier is "overwhelmed" by the frenzy of public support generated by a Surrey Mirror story.

Last week, we reported how Paul Clarke is facing a minimum of five years imprisonment after finding a discarded shotgun and handing it into police.

The 27-year-old from Merstham found the sawn-off shotgun in March this year, handed it in to Reigate police station, where he was arrested immediately.

On November 10, a jury at Guildford Crown Court found him guilty of possessing a firearm " he is now facing a minimum of five years behind bars.

Since the story broke it has caused outrage across the world " and whipped up a frenzy of online debate and support.

Mr Clarke, who spent two years serving in the armoured military in Donchester, said: "It's been mad. I feel like a celebrity. I just want to thank everyone for all their support."

Over the weekend, Mr Clarke's court case was one of the most commented stories on social networking site 'Twitter' " getting more mention than 'Jedward' the controversial X-Factor contestants.

His case caught the attention of several celebrities, including comedians David Mitchell and Simon Pegg, star of 'Shaun of the Dead' and 'How to Lose Friends and Alienate People'.

And, Graham Lineham, creator of the hit TV sit-com Father Ted 'tweeted' in response to other comments on the story.

He wrote: "There'll be enough interest in Paul Clarke now [to] at least shed a little light on [the] situation. Wait for that before pitchforks/petitions".

Bloggers across the world have fiercely debated the 'strict liability' aspect of the law on which Mr Clarke was convicted " where the intention of anybody possessing a firearm is irrelevant.

A facebook group entitled 'Ex-soldier Paul Clarke should not go to jail for handing in a gun', has almost 700 members and his solicitor, Mr Lionel Blackman, has been interviewed on Radio 4 about the case.

Angry readers have also set up online petitions to send to 10 Downing Street, and have been writing to Crispin Blunt MP.

ThisisSurreytoday has also received comments from across the globe.

Mr Clarke said: "The support has just been overwhelming. I've had strangers coming up to me in the street telling me they support me."

But despite the public support, Mr Clarke is convinced he's going to prison.

He said: "The judge has to do his job, and his job is to rule on a conviction.

"I wish I had just thrown the gun in a bush now " however wrong that is. But I wanted to do the right thing."