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# Unique riddle/code

Thu 1 Oct, 2009 10:30 am
This isn't one of those simplistic trick question riddles like 'I make polar bears white' etc that's been copied a few thousand times.
A friend gave me the following code and, if I solve it before he solves the one I gave him, then I get £20.
Don't let that stop you answering.
Note: the riddle's are one word, he said. how this is one word is beyond me.

12, Eternity head name such wink ever ee eve eve croquet cams X

Before you chastize me for cheating, we're both allowed to use any means possible, as we agreed.
I don't suppose anyone has an Enigma machine?
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spikepipsqueak

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Thu 1 Oct, 2009 11:53 pm
@blueprince,
My enigma machine is away at the cleaners. I have no idea, so make sure to tell us when you figure it out.

In the meantime, let's have a look at the puzzle you set your mate.

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Fri 2 Oct, 2009 06:59 am
@blueprince,
blueprince wrote:
12, Eternity head name such wink ever ee eve eve croquet cams X

Are there any rules to how you develop the riddles?

"Eternity head name" makes me think "big bang". But then "eve eve" makes me rethink that he means "genesis".

No idea as to "such wink ever ee" or "croquet cams X".
whimsical

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Fri 2 Oct, 2009 08:20 am
I was looking for ways to get letters for the one word answer.
Some ideas:
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12 = L
eternity= endless time = tim => E
such = extreme a degree = D or E
wink = eye blink = I
ever ee = every = Y
eve eve = eves = the latter part of the day = Y
Croquet = play, cams = disks. Together they make CD'S
X = X

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whimsical

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Fri 2 Oct, 2009 08:27 am
Or it's really a code.

For instance: The number of letters behind 12 is a multiple of 12.

Code:```ETERNITYHEAD NAMESUCHWINK EVEREEEVEEVE CROQUETCAMSX```

I haven't, however found a pattern that gives me a word, like reading across or backwards, etc.
blueprince

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Fri 2 Oct, 2009 08:32 am
@spikepipsqueak,
No offense, but i'm not taking the chance that he'll search mine on google and come up with this.
Why do cleaners take so long?
Note: I found that there are forty eight letters; 12 times four, relating to the 12 at the start, which makes me think it's a number based riddle. Below is what you get when you turn each letter into a number. probably useless, but what the hell.
Each space is a gap between words, each dash is a space between letters, each line is one group of twelve.

12,
5-20-5-18-14-9-20-25 8-5-1-4
14-1-13-5 19-21-3-8 23-9-14-11
5-22-55-18 5-5 5-22-5 5-22-5
3-18-15-17-21-5-20 3-1-13-19 24
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blueprince

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Fri 2 Oct, 2009 08:33 am
@whimsical,
I noticed this too, as my next post says. Unfortunately, i was typing my reply when you posted this.
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blueprince

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Fri 2 Oct, 2009 08:34 am
No rules whatsoever. We just had to make the hardest code we could.
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Fri 2 Oct, 2009 08:41 am
@blueprince,
A "croquet cam" is the thing that holds the balls, mallets, etc., isn't it?

Edit: That would be a caddy, I suppose.
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Fri 2 Oct, 2009 08:44 am
@whimsical,
whimsical wrote:
Code:```ETERNITYHEAD NAMESUCHWINK EVEREEEVEEVE CROQUETCAMSX```

Looks to me like each line is a hint to a letter in a four-letter word.
blueprince

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Fri 2 Oct, 2009 04:40 pm
Good thought!
I just noticed something strangely coincedental: each of the twelve letter blocks has a letter that recurs, the evereeeveeve gave it away.
3E
2N
8E
2C
Even in the two numbered ones, nothing recurred more. Probably just a false lead, like the numbers.
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Fri 2 Oct, 2009 07:45 pm
@blueprince,
Was there anything funny in the capitalizations? I've seen riddles embed binary numbers that way.
oolongteasup

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Fri 2 Oct, 2009 11:27 pm
@blueprince,
i get bing

n 4 evereeeveeve 4 night
i 4 namesuchwink 4 eye
b 4 croquetcamsx 4 ball

and i'm doubtless incorrect yet ever so contemporaneous

i beg your pardon, how rude, at least i have an answer
blueprince

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Sat 3 Oct, 2009 05:34 am
There weren't any capitalizations in the version he gave me.
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blueprince

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Sat 3 Oct, 2009 05:35 am
@oolongteasup,
But on the bright side, he didn't get my riddle right.
oolongteasup

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Mon 5 Oct, 2009 05:48 am
@blueprince,
he lied
blueprince

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Mon 5 Oct, 2009 08:11 am
@oolongteasup,
If he figures mine out, he has to tell me what his answer was, so we'll find out sometime.
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blueprince

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Thu 8 Oct, 2009 04:07 pm
Damn!
He figured my code out. But now I know his. The answer is ahead: home.
How he reached this is still an unknown. Well, i know it, but I challenge you to figure it out.
spikepipsqueak

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Tue 13 Oct, 2009 10:34 pm
@blueprince,
I am not a puzzleperson and I have proved it by laying those letters out in assorted types of grids, as letters and number representations, operating on them by the number 12 in assorted ways, individually and aggregated.

Even knowing what to aim for I don't get it.

I say again: I am not a puzzleperson.
blueprince

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Wed 14 Oct, 2009 08:23 am
@spikepipsqueak,
In which case, I'll reveal the means:
Find the letter that recurs the most in each 12 letter block. Count the number of times this recurs, and then turn the letter into a number (a to 1 etc) and add the number of times the letter repeats to the number of the letter:
1st block-E-3-5+3=H
2nd block-N-2-14+2=Supposed to be O but he got this one wrong. Yes, very helpful.
3rd block-e-8-5+8=M
4th block-C-2-3+2=E

HOME
(well, HPME)
QED.

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