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Why Did Roman Polanski Run Away?

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2009 01:40 pm
@hawkeye10,
Polanski was an artist, in Hollywood as I recall, I think that we have a fair idea what was normal in his world.
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Being a pedophile is not and never been acceptable in any part of this country even Hollywood.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2009 01:42 pm
@hawkeye10,
High school is not preteen or near now is it?

A 16 or even 15 year old is not the same as a 13 year old.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2009 02:04 pm
@BillRM,
No kidding. What Polanski did was not ok then, nor should it have been. He was punished in the criminal system, and the victim won a half million dollar judgment against him back when that amount of money was something. He was wrong, and everyone agrees that he was wrong, even him.

My point, in case you missed it, is that there is no way to add penalty now fairly, we don't have the same attitudes as we did back then. Justice being unobtainable, the case should be either dismissed or declared over with no additional punishment installed.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2009 02:07 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

If the corrupt judge did that to him,
what makes u think that he 'd treat u or your favorite people any better?
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First I am not planning on raping a 13 year old girl or boy for that matter!!!!!

Oh I did love hearing one of his supporters calling the victim a young woman in one public statement.

A 13 year old child a young woman indeed.
I certainly thought so when I was 13.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2009 02:13 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Is there a reason
that u believe that he limits his treachery to rapists ?
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Treachery as in considering rejecting a very light plea deal
for a man in his middle years raping a child?

We need far more evil judges on the bench.

If someone gets mad at u for unrelated reasons
and falsely accuses YOU of doing that,
shoud there be one of those evil judges on the bench ?

Suppose that one of those kids that threw gravel at Robert
decides to accuse u of rape, shoud there be one of those evil judges on the bench ?
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2009 02:17 pm
@hawkeye10,
Sorry he ran before he was sentence so both the sentencing for the crime of raping a child and the added crime of runing is still an open matter.

It was his decission to run and to allow him to go without punishment is to reward him for the action of running in the first place.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2009 02:25 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

Quote:
ok, that whole collective **** is getting boring


Entertaining you is not my job. I am a socialist,
I use the language at my disposal to convey what I mean as best I can.
In this case I know of no word or phrase that works better for what I want it to than "collective".
DOWN with socialism !



Long live personal freedom and individualism !





David
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2009 02:28 pm
@BillRM,
I don't see any problem with punishment for evading justice, if punishment beyond bond forfeiture is the custom. I think that a trial would be needed, where Polanski could defend his behaviour, and ask for leniency if he so chooses.

IN my mind this would be a new charge. The sex case should be over as of now though.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2009 02:32 pm

What is his current situation ?

Is he still in a Swiss jail, or out on bail ?

or something else ?
Francis
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2009 02:35 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Still in jail, in Switzerland, while Swiss authorities wait for the US request for extradition.

US has 40 days + 20 days report to present their request.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2009 02:38 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Our first concern, and principle concern, is that Mr. Polanski be set free" from jail while "remaining on Swiss territory," Temime told reporters at the Justice Palace in Paris. "He has a chalet in Switzerland. He would naturally accept to be placed under house arrest during the followup of the extradition proceedings."

The Swiss Justice Ministry did not rule out the possibility that Polanski could be released on bail under very strict conditions that he doesn't flee Switzerland, but said house arrest had never happened before in a case like this.

"In most cases the imprisoned person has to remain in detention for the whole process," said Peter Cosandey, a former Zurich prosecutor specializing in international criminal cooperation.

"The chances that he will be exempted from prison are rather small," he added, because Polanski isn't a Swiss citizen or a permanent resident and is considered at high risk of fleeing justice.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2009-09-28-polanski-to-fight-extradition_N.htm
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2009 02:46 pm
@Francis,

Thanx for the information, Francis and Hawkeye.

What is your opinion of extradition, Francis ?
Francis
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2009 02:58 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
At the moment, I see no way Polanski could avoid being extradited to the US.

It probably will take longer, because of the appeals.

Switzerland has been under extreme pressure of the US lately, so I think they will hand Polanski as soon as they can.

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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2009 03:02 pm
Quote:
ZURICH " Imprisoned director Roman Polanski should have been warned that he faced an international arrest warrant before he arrived in Switzerland, the country's former justice minister said Friday.

Christoph Blocher said a warning would have been fairer to the 76-year-old filmmaker who was arrested as he arrived for a government-backed festival that invited him to receive an award. He also said it would have been legal.

Polanski was apprehended on an American request for having sex in 1977 with a 13-year-old girl. Authorities in Los Angeles consider Polanski a convicted felon and a fugitive, and Switzerland says there has been an international warrant out on him since 2005.

"You don't invite someone when you know he's going to be arrested," said Blocher, a nationalist firebrand who was ousted from the government at the end of 2007 after helping the People's Party become Switzerland's strongest. "You simply don't do that."
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Switzerland has also faced pressure to act on behalf of Polanski, particularly from France and Poland, the two countries where Polanski has citizenship. But officials have said they will not bend to political pressure and will treat the case like any other.

Even Blocher said Polanski's case was simple now.

"He traveled here. He is criminally punishable in the U.S. He must be extradited,"
Blocher said, adding that's why a warning might have been better: "Then we would have been spared this whole mess."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091002/ap_on_en_mo/eu_switzerland_polanski_4
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2009 03:09 pm
@hawkeye10,
Sorry once more the sex crime is not over the man ran before the court could imposed any sentence and that was his choice to do so.

It is a pending matter for decades because of his actions.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2009 04:08 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
Quote:
"You don't invite someone when you know he's going to be arrested," said Blocher
What does that say about Swiss hospitality?

The quality of a host is defined by how well
he attends to the contentment of his guests.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2009 05:28 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
that is right, and they also have now gone back on their promise of bank secrecy, and hung a lot of people out to dry. Getting stuck with the Polanski drama looks to be due to idiocy as it could have easily been avoided, but who knows, maybe they have turned militantly law and order....
OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2009 08:36 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

that is right, and they also have now gone back on their promise of bank secrecy, and hung a lot of people out to dry. Getting stuck with the Polanski drama looks to be due to idiocy as it could have easily been avoided, but who knows, maybe they have turned militantly law and order....
Or maybe, just maybe, the guy who pulled the trigger didn't have a problem with stinging a child rapist out of hiding. Idiocy, is pretending the sick twisted cowering rapist is the victim here.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2009 08:45 pm
@OCCOM BILL,
Governments had taken a pass on nabbing Polanski for decades because they have nothing to gain for doing so but a thousand headaches. I don't know how far up the chain of command the decision to take him went, but someone higher should have called it off, told Polanski not to come if need be. If there was no planning, if some rouge agent decided to make the collar, the central government is still at fault, for not being aware the Polanski was coming and taking steps to avoid needing to take possession of him.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 3 Oct, 2009 09:02 pm
@OCCOM BILL,
This is not a riposte to any exact post. But, O'Bill...
I often agree with you on this and that, at least at first. But you get into bludgeoning in a way that makes me look at you.

On Polanski - having been raped myself and said no and no and no and no to no avail, and dealt with the circumstances, I've no favor for even zonko'd rapists.
I'm assuming Polanski was a clever **** to a maleable young girl, or perhaps she was fully recalcitrant.

But.. I see your vitriol to him as just about drooling.

I'd be glad to see Polanski stand up in court.
I don't know about punishment, that's another story.


 

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