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Americans bought over 1,000,000 guns in August

 
 
roger
 
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Reply Fri 11 Sep, 2009 01:42 pm
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:

it certainly helps keep the prison system profitable.


Sure. They lost money on every sale. It's only their enormous volumn that keeps them in business.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2009 03:56 pm
@Robert Gentel,
Robert Gentel wrote:

Legalizing abortion has had the largest impact on crime in modern America.
That should make you consider purely social things like employment and education as being on the front lines of crime fighting.
I am not sure what u have in mind qua the legalization of abortion.
I do not see the connection between abortion and crime.
Do mean that removal of fetuses was criminal & that by making it legal,
we promoted an act that u consider to be immoral ?





David
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2009 06:46 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
The thinking is that at least the bulk of an entire generation of criminals was basically aborted.

I view that as largely correct as far as it goes. Amongst the things which Freakonomics does not mention is the 12M - 25M Mexicans now illegally in this country to take up the slack for that missing generation...

Of course, the lottery system which was in effect in 1955 in which a certain number of teenage girls produced babies for adoption is not going to come back. The real solution is that we have to again make it both respectable and economically feasible for young Americans to marry and start families in their late teens. What we've been doing for the last fifty years or so clearly is not working.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2009 07:11 pm
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:

Quote:
The thinking is that at least the bulk of an entire generation
of criminals was basically aborted.

I see what u mean.
I have wondered how many 1,000s of violent crimes
were never committed because the predators who, in the ordinary course of affairs,
WOUD HAVE committed them were too enfeebled or killed by AIDES.


Quote:
I view that as largely correct as far as it goes. Amongst the things which Freakonomics does not mention
is the 12M - 25M Mexicans now illegally in this country to take up the slack for that missing generation...

Of course, the lottery system which was in effect in 1955 in which a certain number of teenage girls produced babies
for adoption is not going to come back.

In 1955, I was not aware of that lottery; nor was I until now.
Who administered the lottery? By what authority was it done ?


Quote:
The real solution is that we have to again make it both respectable
and economically feasible for young Americans to marry and start families
in their late teens. What we've been doing for the last fifty years or so clearly is not working.

Does anyone stop to consider whether marriage is respectable,
before thay commit marriage ?


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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Sun 20 Sep, 2009 01:39 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
I am not sure what u have in mind qua the legalization of abortion.
I do not see the connection between abortion and crime.


See The Impact of Legalized Abortion on Crime by John J. Donohue III and Steven D. Levitt.

Quote:
Do mean that removal of fetuses was criminal & that by making it legal,
we promoted an act that u consider to be immoral ?


No. The theory, in a nutshell, is that unwanted children in broken homes tend to become criminals at a higher-than-average rate and that certain major drops in crime rates are largely attributable to the legalization of abortion years earlier.
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