Cheney's speech ignored some inconvenient truths

Reply Fri 22 May, 2009 09:47 am
Dick Cheney has always been a liar and hasn't changed a bit except that he's become more crazy. ---BBB

Cheney's speech ignored some inconvenient truths
By Jonathan S. Landay and Warren P. Strobel | McClatchy Newspapers

WASHINGTON " Former Vice President Dick Cheney's defense Thursday of the Bush administration's policies for interrogating suspected terrorists contained omissions, exaggerations and misstatements.

In his address to the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative policy organization in Washington, Cheney said that the techniques the Bush administration approved, including waterboarding " simulated drowning that's considered a form of torture " forced nakedness and sleep deprivation, were "legal" and produced information that "prevented the violent death of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of innocent people."

He quoted the Director of National Intelligence, Adm. Dennis Blair, as saying that the information gave U.S. officials a "deeper understanding of the al Qaida organization that was attacking this country."

In a statement April 21, however, Blair said the information "was valuable in some instances" but that "there is no way of knowing whether the same information could have been obtained through other means. The bottom line is that these techniques hurt our image around the world, the damage they have done to our interests far outweighed whatever benefit they gave us and they are not essential to our national security."

A top-secret 2004 CIA inspector general's investigation found no conclusive proof that information gained from aggressive interrogations helped thwart any "specific imminent attacks," according to one of four top-secret Bush-era memos that the Justice Department released last month.

FBI Director Robert Mueller told Vanity Fair magazine in December that he didn't think that the techniques disrupted any attacks.

_ Cheney said that President Barack Obama's decision to release the four top-secret Bush administration memos on the interrogation techniques was "flatly contrary" to U.S. national security, and would help al Qaida train terrorists in how to resist U.S. interrogations.

However, Blair, who oversees all 16 U.S. intelligence agencies, said in his statement that he recommended the release of the memos, "strongly supported" Obama's decision to prohibit using the controversial methods and that "we do not need these techniques to keep America safe."

_ Cheney said that the Bush administration "moved decisively against the terrorists in their hideouts and their sanctuaries, and committed to using every asset to take down their networks."

The former vice president didn't point out that Osama bin Laden and his chief lieutenant, Ayman al Zawahri, remain at large nearly eight years after 9-11 and that the Bush administration began diverting U.S. forces, intelligence assets, time and money to planning an invasion of Iraq before it finished the war in Afghanistan against al Qaida and the Taliban.

There are now 49,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan fighting to contain the bloodiest surge in Taliban violence since the 2001 U.S.-led intervention, and Islamic extremists also have launched their most concerted attack yet on neighboring, nuclear-armed Pakistan.

_ Cheney denied that there was any connection between the Bush administration's interrogation policies and the abuse of detainee at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison, which he blamed on "a few sadistic guards . . . in violation of American law, military regulations and simple decency."

However, a bipartisan Senate Armed Services Committee report in December traced the abuses at Abu Ghraib to the approval of the techniques by senior Bush administration officials, including former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld.

"The abuse of detainees in U.S. custody cannot simply be attributed to the actions of 'a few bad apples' acting on their own," said the report issued by Sens. Carl Levin, D-Mich., and John McCain, R-Ariz. "The fact is that senior officials in the United States government solicited information on how to use aggressive techniques, redefined the law to create the appearance of their legality and authorized their use against detainees."

_ Cheney said that "only detainees of the highest intelligence value" were subjected to the harsh interrogation techniques, and he cited Khalid Sheikh Mohammad, the alleged mastermind of the 9-11 attacks.

He didn't mention Abu Zubaydah, the first senior al Qaida operative to be captured after 9-11. Former FBI special agent Ali Soufan told a Senate subcommittee last week that his interrogation of Zubaydah using traditional methods elicited crucial information, including Mohammed's alleged role in 9-11.

The decision to use the harsh interrogation methods "was one of the worst and most harmful decisions made in our efforts against al Qaida," Soufan said. Former State Department official Philip Zelikow, who in 2005 was then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's point man in an internal fight to overhaul the Bush administration's detention policies, joined Soufan in his criticism.

_ Cheney said that "the key to any strategy is accurate intelligence," but the Bush administration ignored warnings from experts in the CIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the State Department, the Department of Energy and other agencies, and used false or exaggerated intelligence supplied by Iraqi exile groups and others to help make its case for the 2003 invasion.

Cheney made no mention of al Qaida operative Ali Mohamed al Fakheri, who's known as Ibn Sheikh al Libi, whom the Bush administration secretly turned over to Egypt for interrogation in January 2002. While allegedly being tortured by Egyptian authorities, Libi provided false information about Iraq's links with al Qaida, which the Bush administration used despite doubts expressed by the DIA.

A state-run Libyan newspaper said Libi committed suicide recently in a Libyan jail.

_ Cheney accused Obama of "the selective release" of documents on Bush administration detainee policies, charging that Obama withheld records that Cheney claimed prove that information gained from the harsh interrogation methods prevented terrorist attacks.

"I've formally asked that (the information) be declassified so the American people can see the intelligence we obtained," Cheney said. "Last week, that request was formally rejected."

However, the decision to withhold the documents was announced by the CIA, which said that it was obliged to do so by a 2003 executive order issued by former President George W. Bush prohibiting the release of materials that are the subject of lawsuits.

_ Cheney said that only "ruthless enemies of this country" were detained by U.S. operatives overseas and taken to secret U.S. prisons.

A 2008 McClatchy investigation, however, found that the vast majority of Guantanamo detainees captured in 2001 and 2002 in Afghanistan and Pakistan were innocent citizens or low-level fighters of little intelligence value who were turned over to American officials for money or because of personal or political rivalries.

In addition, German Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Oct. 5, 2005, that the Bush administration had admitted to her that it had mistakenly abducted a German citizen, Khaled Masri, from Macedonia in January 2004.

Masri reportedly was flown to a secret prison in Afghanistan, where he allegedly was abused while being interrogated. He was released in May 2004 and dumped on a remote road in Albania.

In January 2007, the German government issued arrest warrants for 13 alleged CIA operatives on charges of kidnapping Masri.

_ Cheney slammed Obama's decision to close the Guantanamo Bay prison camp and criticized his effort to persuade other countries to accept some of the detainees.

The effort to shut down the facility, however, began during Bush's second term, promoted by Rice and Defense Secretary Robert Gates.

"One of the things that would help a lot is, in the discussions that we have with the states of which they (detainees) are nationals, if we could get some of those countries to take them back," Rice said in a Dec. 12, 2007, interview with the British Broadcasting Corp. "So we need help in closing Guantanamo."

_ Cheney said that, in assessing the security environment after 9-11, the Bush team had to take into account "dictators like Saddam Hussein with known ties to Mideast terrorists."

Cheney didn't explicitly repeat the contention he made repeatedly in office: that Saddam cooperated with al Qaida, a linkage that U.S. intelligence officials and numerous official inquiries have rebutted repeatedly.

The late Iraqi dictator's association with terrorists vacillated and was mostly aimed at quashing opponents and critics at home and abroad.

The last State Department report on international terrorism to be released before 9-11 said that Saddam's regime "has not attempted an anti-Western terrorist attack since its failed plot to assassinate former President (George H.W.) Bush in 1993 in Kuwait."

A Pentagon study released last year, based on a review of 600,000 Iraqi documents captured after the U.S.-led invasion, concluded that while Saddam supported militant Palestinian groups " the late terrorist Abu Nidal found refuge in Baghdad, at least until Saddam had him killed " the Iraqi security services had no "direct operational link" with al Qaida.
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Reply Fri 22 May, 2009 09:53 am
Cheney vs The Past
Posted by Warren Strobel
McClatchy blog

The 200 or so journalists, policy wonks and former-officials-in-waiting for- the-next-Republican-administration gathered at the American Enterprise Institute this morning could be forgiven if they thought they had mistakenly wandered into a time warp.

This, after all, has turned out to be the week of The Past, where Washington's attention and the chattering classes are fixated, not on Change We Can Believe In, but on torture, interrogation, Guantanamo Bay, and wiretapping--ghosts from other calendar years, supposedly, come back to haunt us.

In the time warp that engulfed AEI's 12th floor conference room, Richard Bruce Cheney was still vice president of these United States. It said so, right there at the top of the text of his remarks distributed to the audience: "Vice President Cheney." Not Former Vice President Cheney. Or Richard Cheney, 46th vice president of the United States. Just Cheney, VPOTUS.

Those of us in the time warp could even see dimly into the future, thanks to a projection screen with a TV feed that showed a man named Barack Obama, looking very much like he might one day be President, speaking to a crowd who could not be seen. When this Obama character turned his head to the left on the screen, it produced the illusion that he was looking over at the empty podium, which awaited Vice President Cheney's arrival.

Vice President Cheney came to the podium, and it was immediately back to the good old days, as he unleashed a trademark snarky comment at that Obama fellow's long-windedness. Good morning, he told the crowd, "or perhaps, Good Afternoon." It was clear, he said, Obama served in the Senate, not in the House. "Of course, in the House, we have the five-minute rule."

In his opening remarks, Cheney proclaimed "The point is not to look backward." But for the next 36 minutes, the vice president did just that, stubbornly defending the national security decisions of the Bush administration, taking on all comers, and using language that left the audience unsure that an election in which his party and its key tenets were soundly repudiated had actually occurred at all.

"The key to any strategy is accurate intelligence," the vice president intoned, with nary a hint of irony. This from the man who was the lead proponent of the specious Iraq-al Qaida link; talked about meetings between 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta and an Iraqi intelligence operative long after they had been debunked; and said Iraq's insurgency was in its "last throes" when U.S. intelligence agencies were saying anything but. But no matter - in a time warp, anything is possible.

Cheney's narrative began and ended with the horrific terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001--a date and event he referenced no less than 25 times in a 16-page speech. For Cheney, the world is still the world as it was on that fateful and awful day. He recalled being whisked to a bunker below the White House as a plane (Flight 77, which would be crashed into the Pentagon) neared Washington. He acknowledged speculation "that I'm a different man after 9/11" -- that was 9/11 reference No. 7 by my count--and continued: "I wouldn't say that. But I'll freely admit that watching a coordinated, devastating attack on our country from an underground bunker at the White House can affect how you view your responsibilities."

Vice President Cheney had sharp words for how the Clinton administration--talk about the past!!--dealt with al Qaida's pre-9/11 attacks, and most students of counter-terrorism would agree with him to a point. But the first eight months of the Bush administration seem never to have happened. Those would be the eight months during which the Bush administration, focused on missile defense, North Korea, Russia, etc., almost never mentioned the words "al Qaida" or "bin Laden." Condoleezza Rice was due to give a speech in the morning of September 11, 2001 which made no mention of the Islamist terrorist threat.

In Vice President Cheney's world, it is still a world where the terrorists hate us for who we are--"hate freedom," his old boss, George W. Bush might say. It's still a world where we are in a global "war" against the evil-doers. (Never mind that many bright minds think that approach united our disparate enemies, Sunni and Shi'ite, secular and Islamic, Persian and Arab, and missed the counter-insurgency tactics needed to defeat Islamic insurgents). It's still a world where too much debate and discussion--too much democracy, perhaps--is weakness.

Terrorists "don't stand back in awe of our legal system and wonder whether they had misjudged us all along," the vice president said. "Instead the terrorists see just what they were hoping for - our unity gone, our resolve shaken, our leaders distracted."

No one could accuse Vice President Cheney of being weak, or having shakened resolve, or of being distracted.

He delivered his speech, often with head hunkered down, and left the room so quickly it made your head spin--and no questions from the audience, thank you very much.

And then it was 2009 again. And that Obama fella was in charge.

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Reply Fri 22 May, 2009 09:25 pm
And that Obama fella was in charge.

We will see whether he is fully in charge after the elections of 2010. He may be blindsided as Clinton was in 2004.

We shall see.
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