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H1B --*Not* about foreigners or more education

 
 
Reply Wed 1 Oct, 2003 07:02 pm
> I didn't catch that the first time...... so obviously I should have expected
> the usual industry mantra from the "I'm an american worker, gimme'
> an american worker anyday over a foreigner..." types of people.

This is not about good workers or bad workers, this is not about
jingoism. This is about math. Our system sanctions and supports US
corporations. Corporations are taxed under the premise that they are
US corporations, using US resources, protected by US laws and the US
military. The US also subsidizes the education of its citizens. You
may not like it, but we have a fair of amount of resources invested in
socialist programs.

Given the cost of education, it's impossible, mathematically
impossible for American tech workers to compete with cheap foreign
labor.

So all these arguments about who's better or smarter have nothing to
do with the problem. I can spend $50k to advance myself from a BA to
MA, but as long as an Indian with a PhD will work for $6k that
additional money spent is a waste of resources and time. The tax
money I spent to educate your kid, is also wasted (if you want to look
at it that way).


Just as important, we spend hundreds of billions (again like it or not
it's a reality) to keep our kids sober, hoping they will go to school
and be productive. That's the main excuse for the drug war.

Who, in their right mind is going to send their kid to school and go
into debt, knowing they have to compete with someone who pays pennies
on the dollar for their education? I hope you like rap music,
there'll be more of it.

This is about an economic *system*. Not a hypothetical, idealistic
system, but a real system.


So, without bringing jingoism and bigotry into the mix, without name
calling and casting aspersions, please tell me the solution to this
problem:

We have highly educated "techies" willing and able to work, who can't
find jobs. They are not undereducated, so more education won't help.
In fact, they are educated and inspired by the very people who
invented much of the technology used around the world. Programmers,
educated in the states, who have PhD's are considered "over qualified"
by most HR departments. That's also a fact. So, how do we make
ourselves so employable that a company will drop a $6k per year worker
with a PhD in favor of a $30k-$100 per year worker with a MA?


> I don't like people who impede MY ability to make a buck by hiring who I want
> to hire; whomever Edit (moderator): Links removed. Do not post your links.

Help abolish H1B, the job you save may be your own!
Spread the word


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Edit (moderator): Links removed. Do not post your links.


*actually it's my own moral virtue in the way.
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Reply Thu 2 Oct, 2003 06:59 am
'Course this is all gonna be moot in a few years when the Baby Boomers start to retire, and suddenly US companies start scrambling for skilled workers.
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