WHY CREATIONISM WILL NEVER WIN

Decoded that means effemm is a heavyweight who is trying only to help us all through life and who seeks no reward for the sacrifices he has to endure to acheive such a laudable objective.

He thinks we are all stupid and it is thus his duty to do what he can for us.

The silly twat!

He's like the chap at an orgy who sits in a corner explaining to a librarian in bottle bottom specs that tumescence is the quality or state of being tumescent or swollen and that tumescence usually refers to the normal engorgement with blood (vascular congestion) of the erectile tissues marking sexual excitation and possible readiness for sexual activity and also that the tumescent sexual organ in men is the penis and in women is the clitoris.

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i'm not into meaningful discussions about supernatural beings

LOOKIT IM, just sitting there with that smug "you poor Christian fool" Look on his smartass face.
OOOOH those atheists burn me up.

He's even got his paws crossed and leaning back in that patronizing show of false tolerance. Meanwhile Christian kitty is just trying to be pious and reverent, minding his own business, awww, isn't he cute.

How can prayer be futile if it makes people feel better.

Not everybody wants to queue at Dr Benway's door to beg some chemicals to do the job.

And it shows to what depths of degradation your side will go to make a lie look convincing.

It's praying to ask for its friend to have stripes like it has because its been sobbing all night about being all grey and all.

THE FOSSIL EVIDENCE IN OUR CHROMOSOMES

Chromosome 2 in human genome and whats called 2a and 2b in chimpanzees. In 1982 two scientists published genetic data from chimps , gorillas, and orangutans. They showed that the chromosomes from these species could be aligned with each other. The Human Genome Project and the chimp genome projects expanded this data by showing that every chimpanzee chromosome has a matching chromosome in the human genome. The exception is human chromosome 2 which matches two different chromosomes in chimps.
The two chimp chromosomes are 2(a) and 2(b).
There were three possible explanations to these chromosomes
.According to Fairbanks(2007)
1If humans and chimps share a common ancestor chromosome 2 may have formed by fusing two chromosomes after the lineage leading to modern humans split off from a common ancestor.

2a and 2b might have resulted from fission of an ancestral chromosome after chimps and humans split from their common ancestor

3 Humans and Chimps may have originated separately with no evolution relationship to each other. As Fairbanks said, the similarity isnt a record of common ancestry but is an illusion of it.


In 1992 DNA analyses provided the answer. Geneticists at YAle sequenced DNA from the site in the middle of the human and chimp chromosome 2 area. The "telomeres" which are the "end caps" of each chromosome , ar repeated in the central point of the human chromosome 2. In other words, the end cap of the two chimp chromosome s have been repeated and added to the "fused" chromosome 2 of the human genome. Due to an ability to view these chromosomes as "mirror slices" of each other. This evidences that the telomeres of the chimp have. been embedded within the central portion of the human chromosome 2. Further, there is evidence that significant mutation of the telomere area has occured in the human chromosome 2 since this fusion had occured.This pretty much proves away the "fission" and the "no evolution option".

By the Human genome project and comparing these two critical chromosome areas, ther can be no explanation involving "Creationist thought" or "panspermia" or ID in the relationship between humans and chimps.

That's ridiculous. It assumes that God's capacities are limited to the same level as that of those working on the HGP. Or even your own.

A being who can create the universe, which is the groundbase assumption of Creationism, could easily arrange things as you describe. No sweat.

And allowed the Devil to fill the rocks with fossils of red herrings to tempt the faithful like in the Book of Job.

That you think you have confuted the Creationist argument is proof that you are as thick as a brick. And as stubborn. Science is out of your reach effemm. You're too emotional for science.

All you are proving is that you don't give a **** about facts, that you prefer muddied water.

It's abundantly clear from every aspect of our biology that we evolved on this planet. We are quite clearly terrestrial in origin, as is everything else that lives here.

And while it's theoretically possible that some deity or crafty alien intentionally bifurcated the human chromosomes to make chimps, or visa versa, the change is also something which can and does happen purely through nature.

Nature??!! What ros knows about Nature could be written on the back of a postage stamp with a slurry gun.

Nature my arse. We are here to get rid of Nature.

The evidence is quite clear that the 2a and 2b of chimps were actually fused into a single chromosome 2 in hominids and that this occured AFTER the split from the common ancestor . The telomeres of the chimp were incorporated and then mutated after thousands of generations after the fusion occured . (It appears that telomere research is an area in medicine thats gaining big dividends in tracking the evolutionary significance of human diseases-It appears that the telomeres are the vacuum cleaners of the genome) THere is now a fairly good genetic test for alzheimers susceptibilityu based entirely on the structure and complexity of telomeres in certain chromosomes.

I guess it would make a great story for some historical expeditions of aliens who , knowing the structure of DNA, were able to interfere (by means of abduction and gene tranfer) and set up the processes of evolution in their abductees. That would require the aliens to "work within" the process of evolution to develop entirely new species .
Since the number of actual species that lived approach 5 to 50 BILIION (based upon Raups and Goulds analyses), the "alien interference theory" is very energy intensive.

Unless, perhaps, the aliens KNEW that merely by interfering and creating "Intermediate" species each of which was at a "cusp" of some evolutionary jump, they were directing the generation of many new species .(Of course the aliens would have to have some knowledge of the processes that would affect the earth during its geological history (cataclysms, drift etc)

I suppose itd make a good story written by some scifi author whos good at depicting sweeping epics.

Yes, it also assumes that any alien interventions are indistinguishable from the otherwise natural process.

The realms of fantasy which derive from a romantic attachment to science never ceases to amaze me.

Fielding traduced such literature for good and all in Tom Jones which has some sound science woven into its tapestry of wonders.

There would have to be a cdontinuous ansd frequent bunch of "interventions" before or after each geological cataclysm. Itd make a good sci fi story, but not much bound in wvidence.

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The unselfish gene seems an obvious place to start. Think of every doorway clogged up with liberals insisting "after you".

To paraphrase Clarke, any sufficiently advanced intervention is indistinguishable from nature (and therefor, for all intents and purposes, *IS* nature).

Roy Clarke said that?