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Obama Does Away With "Enemy Combatant" Status

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 02:37 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
Oralloy wrote:
The groups that are related to the 9/11 attack are going to be exterminated, period.

By whom? Holy christian warriors and holy jewish warriors? Michael Ledeen and a few buddies? The Pentagon?


By NATO, with the blessing of the United Nations Security Council.



blatham wrote:
Your project will take how many decades? The civic approval for your project will arise how? Funding will come from where?


As long as it takes.

The civic approval arose a long time ago.

Funding comes from the taxpayers.



blatham wrote:
The number of countries which now harbor sympathizers are how many? The number of individuals are how many hundreds of thousands or more spread across those nations? You'll identify them how? You'll get to them for extermination how? Who'll do it? How will they do it?


Mostly the enemy is based in Afghanistan and Pakistan. We might bomb the odd target in other countries though.

The military doesn't publicize how they identify their targets. But be assured they are on the job.

TNT and napalm are both good ways of eliminating targets.



blatham wrote:
The taliban in Afghanistan has been resurgent now for several years. How will your warrior heroes handle this matter? How about Pakistan?


By killing them.



blatham wrote:
For every man or woman (or boy or girl) you exterminate, there are how many family members for each who will consider your project and its perpetrators deserving themselves of extermination? How large a circle of these would you propose to exterminate as well? Through third cousins?


I do not propose to target family members unless they decide to join a group that we are eradicating.

Collateral damage does happen however.

The Romans had an outstanding phrase: "Create a desert and call it peace."
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 06:57 am
Quote:
Obama Does Away With "Enemy Combatant" Status


PrezBO is planning on releasing all of the ECs currently held in GITMO.
Many of these ex-prisoners will walk our streets and benefit from tax
payer funded services very soon.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 09:50 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:
PrezBO is planning on releasing all of the ECs currently held in GITMO.
Many of these ex-prisoners will walk our streets and benefit from tax
payer funded services very soon.


Nah. There are a number of radicals in Obama's base who want to free them, but Obama is going to keep them locked up until the end of the war.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 09:52 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

H2O MAN wrote:
PrezBO is planning on releasing all of the ECs currently held in GITMO.
Many of these ex-prisoners will walk our streets and benefit from tax
payer funded services very soon.


Nah. There are a number of radicals in Obama's base who want to free
them, but Obama is going to keep them locked up until the end of the war.


Unfortunately... your information is incorrect, many of them will be walking our streets.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 10:18 am

Some Gitmo inmates may be released in US
revel
 
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Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2009 08:40 am
@H2O MAN,
The ones that may be release are the ones cleared of charges.

From your link:

Quote:
Twenty men detained at the remote US naval base at Guantanamo Bay in southern Cuba have been cleared of terrorism charges, including 17 Chinese Uighurs ordered released by a US court in June, seven years after their arrest. But the US says they may face persecution if returned to China


Speaking of the harsher techniques:

Detainee's Harsh Treatment Foiled No Plots
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 3 Apr, 2009 08:18 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
The Romans had an outstanding phrase: "Create a desert and call it peace."

It does stand out, doesn't it?
You've become a silly person.

revel
 
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Reply Sat 11 Apr, 2009 07:10 am
Quote:
C.I.A. to Close Secret Prisons for Terror Suspects
WASHINGTON " The Central Intelligence Agency announced on Thursday that it will no longer use contractors to conduct interrogations, and that it is decommissioning the secret overseas sites where for years it held high-level Al Qaeda prisoners.

In a statement to the agency’s work force, the director, Leon E. Panetta, said that the secret detention facilities were no longer in operation, but he suggested that security and maintenance have been continued at the sites at taxpayers’ expense.

“I have directed our agency personnel to take charge of the decommissioning process, and have further directed that the contracts for site security be promptly terminated,” Mr. Panetta said. “It is estimated that our taking over site security will result in savings of up to $4 million.”


source

If you read the entire article at the source it appears to be very good news for those concerned with the ethics of the country we are living in and love.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2009 05:14 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
Quote:
The Romans had an outstanding phrase: "Create a desert and call it peace."

It does stand out, doesn't it?
You've become a silly person.


Not at all. I am quite serious about the need to eradicate our enemy.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2009 05:15 pm
@revel,
revel wrote:
Quote:
C.I.A. to Close Secret Prisons for Terror Suspects
WASHINGTON " The Central Intelligence Agency announced on Thursday that it will no longer use contractors to conduct interrogations, and that it is decommissioning the secret overseas sites where for years it held high-level Al Qaeda prisoners.

In a statement to the agency’s work force, the director, Leon E. Panetta, said that the secret detention facilities were no longer in operation, but he suggested that security and maintenance have been continued at the sites at taxpayers’ expense.

“I have directed our agency personnel to take charge of the decommissioning process, and have further directed that the contracts for site security be promptly terminated,” Mr. Panetta said. “It is estimated that our taking over site security will result in savings of up to $4 million.”


source

If you read the entire article at the source it appears to be very good news for those concerned with the ethics of the country we are living in and love.


So has Obama figured out where he is going to keep captured enemy soldiers from now on?

Dump them in prison alongside ordinary criminals?
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 30 Apr, 2009 08:38 pm
@H2O MAN,


Those are the ones that we know are not our enemy, but which we can't repatriate because they'd be murdered by their own government.

Obama won't be releasing actual enemies into the US.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 30 Apr, 2009 09:17 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
Instead of "enemy combatants" they will now be called "people who can be detained indefinitely without charges under the US's wartime powers".

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/guantanamo_detainees/print


The courts seem to have agreed to adopt Obama's new standard.

http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2009/04/federal-judge-adopts-obama.php

Quote:
in addition to the authority conferred upon him by the plain language of the AUMF, the President has the authority to detain persons who were part of, or substantially supported, the Taliban or al-Qaeda forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, provided that the terms 'substantially supported' and 'part of' are interpreted to encompass only individuals who were members of the enemy organization’s armed forces, as that term is intended under the laws of war, at the time of their capture.


Goodbye "enemy combatant".

Hello "people who can be detained indefinitely without charges under the US's wartime powers".
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 1 May, 2009 11:04 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
So has Obama figured out where he is going to keep captured enemy soldiers from now on?

Dump them in prison alongside ordinary criminals?


I see. $50 million just to hold them in a a facility just like Guantanamo, just in a different location.

Well, as long as he doesn't release them.....

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/01/us/politics/01gitmo.html

Quote:
WASHINGTON -- As many as 100 detainees at the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, could end up held without trial on American soil, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates suggested Thursday,

Quote:
At the hearing, Mr. Gates said he had asked for $50 million in supplemental financing in case a facility needed to be built quickly for the detainees.
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