@Thomas,
Thomas wrote:
Deist TKO wrote:If a piece of ice is in a glass, and 10% of the ice is simply above the water, when the ice melts the water level will rise some from the part of the ice that was above the water.
No it won't. The experiment is easy enough to reproduce in your own kitchen. I encourage you to reproduce it, and to report back to us once you have.
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Thomas, I just want you to read back. You are correct. The statement you quoted of me, I withdrew. I had forgot that the experiment I was thinking of was not about the ice above water but the variation of the density of the liquid water into a more dense solvent (salt in this case).
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As per your request, I did, and as I stated before if you increase the density of the water the the water level DOES rise.
Take a cup and put water into it. take a marker and make a line where the water level is. Mark it "0"
Place an ice cube in the water and the level will rise. Mark this level "1"
let the ice melt and mark the water level "2"
If the water is pure, level 1 and 2 will be the same. However if you repeat the experiment and this time increase the density of the water with something such as salt, 1 and 2 will NOT be at the same level.
In either case the end water level (level 2) will represent the total volume of the system. The difference between the two experiments is that level 1 represents the amount of water displace by inserting the icecube. The ice is more buoyant in the "heavier" water. Level 1 for the system in which the water is more dense is lower. In either case level one represents ice in water--floating ice. The fact that the water level is affected by buoyant forces shows that there can be a difference in water levels 1 and 2.
What I had forgot earlier was the addition of salt (or something else that would effect the density of water) that would make the ice float higher than if it was in distiled water and thus displace less water initially.
I hope that clears things up.
My roommate, another engineer and also quite well versed in fluid dynamics proofread this, and agrees this is sound.
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