silus
 
Reply Mon 26 Jan, 2009 08:29 am
What is the evidence for the big steps in evolution. Such as eyes, becoming carnivorous, moving out of the oceans?
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djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jan, 2009 08:35 am
Shocked
you mean there are carnivorous eyes, coming out of the ocean and walking the earth

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wandeljw
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jan, 2009 09:58 am
The evidence for evolution involves several different scientific specialities. In the November 2004 issue of National Geographic Magazine, David Quammen summarizes the types of evidence put forth by Charles Darwin:

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The evidence, as he presented it, mostly fell within four categories: biogeography, paleontology, embryology, and morphology. Biogeography is the study of the geographical distribution of living creatures"that is, which species inhabit which parts of the planet and why. Paleontology investigates extinct life-forms, as revealed in the fossil record. Embryology examines the revealing stages of development (echoing earlier stages of evolutionary history) that embryos pass through before birth or hatching; at a stretch, embryology also concerns the immature forms of animals that metamorphose, such as the larvae of insects. Morphology is the science of anatomical shape and design. Darwin devoted sizable sections of The Origin of Species to these categories.

Biogeography, for instance, offered a great pageant of peculiar facts and patterns. Anyone who considers the biogeographical data, Darwin wrote, must be struck by the mysterious clustering pattern among what he called "closely allied" species"that is, similar creatures sharing roughly the same body plan. Such closely allied species tend to be found on the same continent (several species of zebras in Africa) or within the same group of oceanic islands (dozens of species of honeycreepers in Hawaii, 13 species of Galápagos finch), despite their species-by-species preferences for different habitats, food sources, or conditions of climate. Adjacent areas of South America, Darwin noted, are occupied by two similar species of large, flightless birds (the rheas, Rhea americana and Pterocnemia pennata), not by ostriches as in Africa or emus as in Australia. South America also has agoutis and viscachas (small rodents) in terrestrial habitats, plus coypus and capybaras in the wetlands, not"as Darwin wrote"hares and rabbits in terrestrial habitats or beavers and muskrats in the wetlands. During his own youthful visit to the Galápagos, aboard the survey ship Beagle, Darwin himself had discovered three very similar forms of mockingbird, each on a different island.

Why should "closely allied" species inhabit neighboring patches of habitat? And why should similar habitat on different continents be occupied by species that aren't so closely allied? "We see in these facts some deep organic bond, prevailing throughout space and time," Darwin wrote. "This bond, on my theory, is simply inheritance." Similar species occur nearby in space because they have descended from common ancestors.

Paleontology reveals a similar clustering pattern in the dimension of time. The vertical column of geologic strata, laid down by sedimentary processes over the eons, lightly peppered with fossils, represents a tangible record showing which species lived when. Less ancient layers of rock lie atop more ancient ones (except where geologic forces have tipped or shuffled them), and likewise with the animal and plant fossils that the strata contain. What Darwin noticed about this record is that closely allied species tend to be found adjacent to one another in successive strata. One species endures for millions of years and then makes its last appearance in, say, the middle Eocene epoch; just above, a similar but not identical species replaces it. In North America, for example, a vaguely horselike creature known as Hyracotherium was succeeded by Orohippus, then Epihippus, then Mesohippus, which in turn were succeeded by a variety of horsey American critters. Some of them even galloped across the Bering land bridge into Asia, then onward to Europe and Africa. By five million years ago they had nearly all disappeared, leaving behind Dinohippus, which was succeeded by Equus, the modern genus of horse. Not all these fossil links had been unearthed in Darwin's day, but he captured the essence of the matter anyway. Again, were such sequences just coincidental? No, Darwin argued. Closely allied species succeed one another in time, as well as living nearby in space, because they're related through evolutionary descent.

Embryology too involved patterns that couldn't be explained by coincidence. Why does the embryo of a mammal pass through stages resembling stages of the embryo of a reptile? Why is one of the larval forms of a barnacle, before metamorphosis, so similar to the larval form of a shrimp? Why do the larvae of moths, flies, and beetles resemble one another more than any of them resemble their respective adults? Because, Darwin wrote, "the embryo is the animal in its less modified state" and that state "reveals the structure of its progenitor."

Morphology, his fourth category of evidence, was the "very soul" of natural history, according to Darwin. Even today it's on display in the layout and organization of any zoo. Here are the monkeys, there are the big cats, and in that building are the alligators and crocodiles. Birds in the aviary, fish in the aquarium. Living creatures can be easily sorted into a hierarchy of categories"not just species but genera, families, orders, whole kingdoms"based on which anatomical characters they share and which they don't.

All vertebrate animals have backbones. Among vertebrates, birds have feathers, whereas reptiles have scales. Mammals have fur and mammary glands, not feathers or scales. Among mammals, some have pouches in which they nurse their tiny young. Among these species, the marsupials, some have huge rear legs and strong tails by which they go hopping across miles of arid outback; we call them kangaroos. Bring in modern microscopic and molecular evidence, and you can trace the similarities still further back. All plants and fungi, as well as animals, have nuclei within their cells. All living organisms contain DNA and RNA (except some viruses with RNA only), two related forms of information-coding molecules.

Such a pattern of tiered resemblances"groups of similar species nested within broader groupings, and all descending from a single source"isn't naturally present among other collections of items. You won't find anything equivalent if you try to categorize rocks, or musical instruments, or jewelry. Why not? Because rock types and styles of jewelry don't reflect unbroken descent from common ancestors. Biological diversity does. The number of shared characteristics between any one species and another indicates how recently those two species have diverged from a shared lineage.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jan, 2009 12:38 pm
@silus,
silus wrote:

What is the evidence for the big steps in evolution. Such as eyes, becoming carnivorous, moving out of the oceans?

Evolution always works in small steps. Big changes are only apparent when you compare very distant relationships between organisms.

When you look at something that didn't walk on land, and compare it to something that did, you make predictions about the stages that must have existed in between. As the fossil record accumulates and you start to find fossils that match those predictions, then you have evidence in support of the theory which made the predictions.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jan, 2009 12:40 pm
Sometimes the 'evidence' is counter-intuitive.

For example, there are frogs and salamanders which have lived in dark caves now for thousands of generations, no light; but they still have vestigial eyes. They are blind but the organs still exist a little bit. If they didn't have eyes to begin with it is difficult to see what the purpose of those organs is, and if they did, and then lost them, there's your evidence of evolution right there.

Cycloptichorn
fresco
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jan, 2009 12:42 pm
(For those who can get BBC 4 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00h6sbt)
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fresco
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jan, 2009 04:47 pm
The above link now allows access to the full 90 minute programme and gives the latest ideas on "scientific evidence".

BBC programmes are replayable for a limited period, usually a number of days.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jan, 2009 06:03 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Are they the caves in Tennessee? I remember reading an article in the National Geographic magazine some years ago.
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