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Hamas circling the drain

 
 
Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2009 07:34 am
http://patriotroom.com/article/operation-cast-lead-continues

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Signs that Hamas is Circling the Drain

UPDATE 331. Hamas is humiliated. Update 329 first noticed it - now this: DEBKAfile's military sources report Jemal Abu Hashem, who rarely appears on public, Salah Bardaweel, leader of Hamas parliament faction, and Heiman Ta'a, member of the military wing's command were allowed to exit Gaza, Friday, Jan 9 and make their way to the northern Sinai town of El Arish. From there, an Egyptian military flight flew them to Cairo. They were permitted to leave after consenting to an unconditional ceasefire, dropping their demand for open Gaza crossings and accepting that Israeli forces would hold their present lines.

Trust Hamas? Of course not. But this is a matter of "face," of stature, of respect. They have agreed to attend a meeting before which they were require to an unconditional ceasrfire.

Another sign of Hamas circling the drain: 'UN drafting ceasefire plan that would reinstate PA in Gaza'

And again: EU said readying plan to restore Fatah-led PA rule over Gaza crossings...... more .....
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2009 09:50 am
@gungasnake,
Wow!


Israel's troubles are now over.

Now we can move on to something else.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2009 10:01 am
Subtle sarcasm probably won't sink in with this member, Frank, but i appreciated it . . .
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2009 11:05 am
@Setanta,
Here's something a bit less subtle, Set. Let's see if Gunga can pick up on this!

From today’s New York Times:

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CAIRO " Inside Al Azhar Mosque, a 1,000-year-old center of religious learning, the preacher was railing on Friday against Jews. Outside were rows of riot police officers backed by water cannons and dozens of plainclothes officers, there to prevent worshipers from charging into the street to protest against the war in Gaza.

“Muslim brothers,” said the government-appointed preacher, Sheik Eid Abdel Hamid Youssef, “God has inflicted the Muslim nation with a people whom God has become angry at and whom he cursed so he made monkeys and pigs out of them. They killed prophets and messengers and sowed corruption on Earth. They are the most evil on Earth.”

As the war in Gaza burned through its 14th day, Arab governments have felt their legitimacy challenged with an uncommon virulence. With each passing day, and each Palestinian death, the popularity of Hamas and other radical movements has ratcheted higher on the Arab street, while the standing of Arab leaders has suffered.




It goes on. Read the full report.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/10/world/middleeast/10cairo.html?th&emc=th



Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2009 11:26 am
Same old, same old, Frank . . . Hamas' stock rises with "the Arab street," and plummets with western democracies . . . plus ça change . . .
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2009 08:40 pm
@Frank Apisa,


The ONLY use I'd have for the NY Times or Washington Post would be for patterning shotguns. Nobody actually wraps fish in newspapers anymore.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2009 04:52 am
More evidence that the Israeli operation is basically succeeding:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1054245.html

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IDF: Hamas men beginning to desert; army steps up Gaza op
By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent, and News Agencies
Tags: Israel, Hamas, Israel News

A senior Israeli military commander involved in Operation Cast Lead said on Saturday that Hamas militants are suffering from exhaustion and are deserting battle.

The commander told reporters that Amir Mansi, the commander of Hamas' rocket-launching program in the Gaza City area who was killed by the Israel Defense Forces on Saturday, fired mortars himself after junior Hamas operatives refused to go outside, fearing an Israeli strike.



The IDF official estimated that more than 300 Hamas operatives have been killed since Israel launched its ground offensive in Gaza one week ago.

This is the highest estimate provided thus far, and the IDF said that Hamas has purposely refrained from releasing casualty figures among its military wing.

The commander added that the army is working to tighten its grip on the northern section of the Gaza Strip.

The IDF earlier on Saturday killed Mansi, an expert with regard to long-range Grad rockets.

Mansi was identified by Israeli troops on Saturday firing mortars from Gaza. The soldiers opened fire, killing Mansi and injuring two Hamas operatives who were with him.

IAF warns Gazans that offensive will escalate

The Israel Air Force on Saturday dropped leaflets into the Gaza Strip warning residents that it plans to escalate its two-week-old offensive.

The army says it has dropped the fliers throughout Gaza. It says the notices are meant as a "general warning."

The notice says Israel is about to begin a "new phase in the war on terror." It says it will "escalate" an operation that already has killed more than 800 Palestinians.

Israel pressed on with its Gaza offensive and Hamas fired more rockets into the western Negev on Saturday in a two-week-old war that defied international efforts to stop it.

Palestinian medical officials say eight people have been killed by an IDF tank strike in the northern Gaza Strip.

The attack occurred in the town of Jabaliya. Paramedics at the scene say the dead appear to be civilians.

The IDF says it is investigating the incident.

Medical officials in the Gaza Strip said the Palestinian death toll had risen to at least 786. Gaza's Islamist Hamas rulers said more than a third were children. Ten IDF soldiers have been killed, as well as three civilians hit by Hamas rocket fire.

The IDF said 15 Hamas militants were killed in a series of 40 air strikes early on Saturday that targeted rocket launch sites, tunnels used to smuggle weapons, weapons caches and production facilities.

Five IDF soldiers sustained minor wounds during fighting before dawn on Saturday in the Gaza Strip, Israel Radio reported.

Three IDF soldiers were wounded while fighting in Gaza on Friday.

One soldier was moderately wounded, and two others were lightly hurt. All three were taken to Soroka hospital in Be'er Sheva for medical treatment.

In the early hours of Saturday morning Gaza residents said warplanes attacked a disused Hamas security compound in the southern town of Khan Younis, a market in Beit Lahiya, near the strip's northern border with Israel and several buildings in and around Gaza City. Flames and smoke could be seen rising into the sky but none of the sites were in use at the time and there were no reports of casualties.

By dawn, IDF ground troops were reported seen in Gaza City's outlying neighborhoods, a little over a mile (2 kilometers) from the seafront Shati refugee camp, but still not entering built-up areas.

IDF upholds brief humanitarian cease-fire

The IDF halted its fire in Gaza for three hours to allow the territory's besieged residents to stock up.

Spokesman Peter Lerner said Saturday's lull in fire would allow aid groups to rush through food distribution to residents. Medics also used the time to pick up casualties in areas of fighting.

It's the third time Israel has halted its fire during a two-week ground and air offensive against Gaza's Hamas rulers.

Aid groups said the three-hour lull isn't enough time, but that they would try to help as many people as they can.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2009 06:36 am
Like I said...whew...finally Israel's problems are over. Now the area will be calm...and they can all luxuriate in the peace!

Finally!
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2009 10:29 am
@Frank Apisa,
The good news is that the people who run Israel have stopped listening to the appeasers and kumbaya hummers, and started listening to their own long suffering people. Given that, there's at least a chance for happy endings.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2009 10:34 am
One way of looking at it would be to note that Israel is doing the palestinians' own dirty work FOR them. Most other countries would just tell them something like

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Hey, we're gonna give you clowns about ten days to do whatever it takes to get Hamas under control and if you don't, we're just gonna bomb ALL of your sorry asses until the problem goes away.


Or, as the one guy said in Alien II, "nuke the place from orbit".
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