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Iraqi National Anthem

 
 
Reply Fri 12 Dec, 2008 09:56 am
November 28, 2008
Iraqi National Anthem
Posted by Dulaimy
McClatchy blog

This is the Iraqi national anthem. In schools we were taught this song even under Saddam despite it wasn't the national anthem back then and after 2003 it was used temporarily as the new Iraqi national anthem.

The anthem is called Mawtini (My Homeland), written by a Palestinian poet.

It is the national anthem for Palestine and Algeria and Iraq. Lyrics:

My homeland, My homeland
Glory and beauty, Sublimity and splendor
Are in your hills, Are in your hills
Life and deliverance, Pleasure and hope
Are in your air, Are in your Air
Will I see you? Will I see you?
Safe and comforted, Sound and honored
Will I see you in your eminence?
Reaching to the stars, Reaching to the stars
My homeland, My homeland
My homeland, My homeland
The youth will not tire, 'till your independence
Or they die
We will drink from death
And will not be to our enemies
Like slaves, Like slaves
We do not want, We do not want
An eternal humilation
Nor a miserable life
We do not want
But we will bring back
Our storied glory, Our storied glory
My homeland, My homeland
The sword and the pen
Not the talk nor the quarrel
Are our symbols, Are our symbols
Our glory and our covenant
And a duty to be faithful
Moves us, moves us
Our glory, Our glory
Is an honorable cause
And a waving standard
O, behold you
In your eminence
Victorious over your enemies
Victorious over your enemies
My homeland, My homeland


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Foofie
 
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Reply Fri 12 Dec, 2008 09:16 pm
Well, t'aint they just singin' a heart warmin' anthem. Bless their little hearts.
BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 10:24 am
@Foofie,
I thought it helps to understand their points of view, which in someways informs the western world.

BBB
Foofie
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 05:26 pm
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:

I thought it helps to understand their points of view, which in someways informs the western world.

BBB


You are right up there with Paul Revere as a patriot.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 05:43 pm
@Foofie,
United States of America

The Star Spangled Banner

Oh, say! can you see by the dawn's early light
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming;
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there:
Oh, say! does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore, dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In fully glory reflected now shines in the stream:
'Tis the star-spangled banner! Oh, long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution!
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Oh, thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n-rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust":
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.







Nothing like the peaceful and enlightened lyrics of other countries, is it, the Iraqi anthem?


The slave bit in the US anthem is especially ironic, don't you think?


National anthems are, of course, known for their rational and compassionate and peaceful content:

God Save the Queen

God save our gracious Queen,
Long live our noble Queen,
God save the Queen!
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us,
God save the Queen!

O lord God arise,
Scatter our enemies,
And make them fall!
Confound their knavish tricks,
Confuse their politics,
On you our hopes we fix,
God save the Queen!

Not in this land alone,
But be God's mercies known,
From shore to shore!
Lord make the nations see,
That men should brothers be,
And form one family,
The wide world ov'er

From every latent foe,
From the assasins blow,
God save the Queen!
O'er her thine arm extend,
For Britain's sake defend,
Our mother, prince, and friend,
God save the Queen!

Thy choicest gifts in store,
On her be pleased to pour,
Long may she reign!
May she defend our laws,
And ever give us cause,
To sing with heart and voice,
God save the Queen!




It is, of course, for a rational person, difficult to see how posting silly national anthem lyrics leads to snide assertions that one lacks the silly quality of patriotism, but the mind of Foofie is e'er full of such stuff.

I suppose I must now be accused of such a lack for posting anthems not of my country?

Well, I do lack it, but not for such a stupid reason.

Land of Hope and Glory
Lyrics

Land of Hope and Glory, Mother of the Free,
How shall we extol thee, who are born of thee?
Wider still, and wider, shall thy bounds be set;
God, who made thee mighty, make thee mightier yet!

Truth and Right and Freedom, each a holy gem,
Stars of solemn brightness, weave thy diadem.

Tho' thy way be darkened, still in splendour drest,
As the star that trembles o'er the liquid West.

Throned amid the billows, throned inviolate,
Thou hast reigned victorious, thou has smiled at fate.

Land of Hope and Glory, fortress of the Free,
How may we extol thee, praise thee, honour thee?

Hark, a mighty nation maketh glad reply;
Lo, our lips are thankful, lo, our hearts are high!

Hearts in hope uplifted, loyal lips that sing;
Strong in faith and freedom, we have crowned our King!





Most countries are as dumb as the US and Iraq, and think themselves special and deserving of a high and lonely destiny.


dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 06:08 pm
@dlowan,
This thread set me looking for the dumbest national anthem lyrics.

Some of the younger countries do not seem quite as bloodthirsty and hungry to go and kill people...but the lyrics are still funny.

Here's ours:


Australians all let us rejoice
For we are young and free
We've golden soil and wealth for toil,
Our home is girt by sea:
Our land abounds in nature's gifts
Of beauty rich and rare,
In history's page let every stage
Advance Australia fair,
In joyful strains then let us sing
Advance Australia fair.

Beneath our radiant Southern Cross,
We'll toil with hearts and hands,
To make this Commonwealth of ours
Renowned of all the lands,
For those who've come across the seas
We've boundless plains to share,
With courage let us all combine
To advance Australia fair.
In joyful strains then let us sing,
Advance Australia fair.





We actually adopted this clanker quite recently.....and nobody knows the lyrics....but they are very funny.

"Young and free"? Well, kinda, but we are the oldest continent with the oldest living culture (Australian Aboriginal) extant...so that is odd.

"Golden soil"? Well, it's ok in a few areas, but, really, in line with our age, our soils are old, fragile and kinda exhausted. Most of Oz is desert.

"Girt by sea"?


PULEEEZE!!!! Girt is a word that ought never be seen pretty much anywhere, and, while it's kind of cute to be inordinately excited by having lots of beaches, WE'RE an ISLAND for **** sake......by DEFINITION we are "girt by sea".

I could go on, but you get the picture.

Anthii are dumb.


Freedomage is de rigeur:


Papua New Guinea Anthem

O arise all you sons of this land,
Let us sing of our joy to be free,
Praising God and rejoicing to be
Papua New Guinea.

Chorus:

Shout our name from the mountains to seas
Papua New Guinea;
Let us raise our voices and proclaim
Papua New Guinea.
Now give thanks to the good Lord above
For His kindness, His wisdom and love
For this land of our fathers so free,
Papua New Guinea.

Chorus:

Shout again for the whole world to hear
Papua New Guinea;
We're independent and we're free,
Papua New Guinea.



Costa Rica sounds scary, but I don't understand it.


ROOOBEERRRRRRRRRT!!!!!!




Noble patria tu hermosa bandera
expresión de tu vida nos da
bajo el límpido azul de tu cielo
blanca y pura descansa la paz

En la lucha tenaz, de fecunda labor
que enrojece del hombre la faz
conquistaron tus hijos labriegos, sencillos

eterno prestigio, estima y honor
eterno prestigio, estima y honor
Salve oh tierra gentil
Salve oh madre de amor

Cuando alguno pretenda
tu gloria manchar
verás a tu pueblo valiente y viril
la tosca herramienta en arma trocar

Noble patria tu pródigo suelo
dulce abrigo y sustento nos da
bajo el límpido azul de tu cielo
vivan siempre el trabajo y la paz


Egypt is very loveable:




My homeland, my homeland, my hallowed land,
Only to you, is my due hearty love at command,
My homeland, my homeland, my hallowed land,
Only to you is my due hearty love at command,
Mother of the great ancient land,
My sacred wish and holy demand,
All should love, awe and cherish thee,
Gracious is thy Nile to humanity,
No evil hand can harm or do you wrong,
So long as your free sons are strong,
My homeland, my homeland, my hallowed land,
Only to you, is my due hearty love at command
dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 06:24 pm
@dlowan,
Mexico's, via Babelfish, is REALLY scary:

Himno Nacional de los Estados Unidos Mexicanos

Letra de Francisco González Bocanegra
Música de Jaime Nunó

Coro:
Mexicanos, al grito de guerra
El acero aprestad y el bridón,
Y retiemble en sus centros la tierra
Al sonoro rugir del cañón.

I

Ciñe ¡oh Patria! tus sienes de oliva
De la paz el arcángel divino,
Que en el cielo tu eterno destino,
Por el dedo de Dios se escribió;
Mas si osare un extraño enemigo,
Profanar con su planta tu suelo,
Piensa ¡oh Patria querida! que el cielo
Un soldado en cada hijo te dio.

Coro

II
En sangrientos combates los viste
Por tu amor palpitando sus senos,
Arrostrar la metralla serenos,
Y la muerte o la gloria buscar.
Si el recuerdo de antiguas hazañas
De tus hijos inflama la mente,
Los laureles del triunfo, tu frente
Volverán inmortales a ornar.

Coro

III
Como al golpe del rayo la encina
Se derrumba hasta el hondo torrente,
La discordia vencida, impotente,
A los piés del arcángel cayó:
Ya no más de tus hijos la sangre
Se derrame en contienda de hermanos
Sólo encuentra el acero en tus manos
Quien tu nombre sagrado insultó.

Coro

IV
Del guerrero inmortal de Zempoala
Te defienda la espada terrible,
Ysostiene su brazo invencible
Tu sagrado pendón tricolor;
El será del feliz mexicano
En la paz y en la guerra el caudillo,
Porque él supo sus armas de brillo
Circundar en los campos de honor.

Coro

V
¡Guerra, guerra sin tregua al que intente
De la patria manchar los blasones!
¡Guerra, guerra! Los patrios pendones
En las olas de sangre empapad:
¡Guerra, guerra! En el monte, en el valle
Los cañones horrísonos truenen,
Y los ecos sonoros resuenen
Con las voces de ¡Unión! ¡Libertad!

Coro

VI
Antes, patria, que inermes tus hijos
Bajo el yugo su cuello dobleguen,
Tus campiñas con sangre se rieguen,
Sobre sangre se estampe su pie;
Y tus templos, palacios y torres
Se derrumben con hórrido estruendo,
Y tus ruinas existan diciendo:
De mil héroes la Patria aquí fue.

Coro

VII
Si a la lid contra hueste enemiga
Nos convoca la trompa guerrera,
De Iturbide la sacra bandera
¡Mexicanos! valientes seguid:
Y a los fieros bridones les sirvan
Las vencidas enseñas de alfombra;
Los laureles del triunfo den sombra
A la frente del bravo adalid.

Coro

VIII
Vuelva altivo a los patrios hogares
El guerrero a contar su victoria,
Ostentando las plumas de gloria
Que supiera en la lid conquistar:
Tornáranse sus lauros sangrientos
En guirnaldas de mirtos y rosas,
Que el amor de las hijas y esposas
También sabe a los bravos premiar.

Coro

IX
Y el que al golpe de ardiente metralla
De la patria en las aras sucumba,
Obtendrá en recompensa una tumba
Donde brille de gloria la luz:
Y de Iguala la enseña querida
A su espada sangrienta enlazada,
De laurel inmortal coronada,
Formará de su fosa la cruz.

Coro

X
¡Patria! ¡Patria! tus hijos te juran
Exhalar en tus aras su aliento,
Si el clarín con su bélico acento,
Los convoca a lidiar con valor:
¡Para ti las guirnaldas de oliva!
¡Un recuerdo para ellos de gloria!
¡Un laurel para ti de victoria!
¡Un sepulcro para ellos de honor!

coro






Mexican, to the shout military The steel you prepare and bridón, And retiemble in its Earth centers To the sonorous one rugir of the tube. I It fits oh Mother country! your sienes of olive Of La Paz arcángel divine, That in the sky your eternal destiny, By the finger of God it was written; But if it dares a enemy stranger, To profane with its plant your ground, It thinks oh dear Mother country! that the sky a soldier in each son gave you. Choir


In bloody combats it dresses By your love beating its sines, To face the shrapnel calm, And the death or the glory to look for. If the memory of old feats Of your children inflames the mind, The laurels of the triumph, your front Will return immortal to ornar.

Like the blow of the ray the oak One collapses until the deep torrent, the payable, impotent discord, On the feet of arcángel it fell: No longer more of your children the blood is spilled in fight of brothers Only finds the steel in your hands That your sacred name insulted. Choir


IV Of the immortal soldier of Zempoala it defends the terrible sword to You, Ysostiene its invincible arm Your sacred banner tricolor; It will be of happy the Mexican In La Paz and the war the caudillo, Because he knew his arms of brightness To surround in the honor fields.


V War, war without truce to which tries Of the mother country to stain the blazons! War, war! The native banners In the blood waves you soak: War, war! In the mount, in the valley the horrísonos guns roar, And the sonorous echoes resonate With the voices of Union! Freedom!


I SAW Before, mother country, that inermes your children Under the yoke their neck fold, Your countrysides with blood are watered, On blood prints their foot; And your temples, palaces and towers collapse with hórrido roar, and your ruins exist saying: Of thousand heroes the Mother country was here.


Well, really, I can't go on!


Costa Rican sample is kind of cute:


Noble mother country your beautiful flag expression of your life gives us under limpid the blue one of your sky pure white and rests La Paz In the tenacious fight, of fecund work that the face blushes of the man they conquered your labriegos, simple children eternal prestige, considers and honor eternal prestige, considers and honor Gentile earth saves oh Mother saves oh of love When some tries your glory to stain you will see your brave and manly town the coarse tool in weapon to exchange Noble mother country your prodigal ground sweet shelter and sustenance give us under limpid the blue one of your sky the work and La Paz always live.
dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 06:29 pm
@dlowan,
Phillipines is kind of USAish:

Land of the morning
Child of the sun returning
With fervor burning
Thee do our souls adore.
Land dear and holy,
Cradle of noble heroes,
Ne'er shall invaders
Trample thy sacred shores.
Ever within thy skies and through thy clouds
And o'er thy hills and seas;
Do we behold thy radiance, feel the throb
Of glorious liberty.
Thy banner dear to all hearts
Its sun and stars alright,
Oh, never shall it's shining fields
Be dimmed by tyrants might.
Beautiful land of love, oh land of light,
In thine embrace 'tis rapture to lie;
But it is glory ever when thou art wronged
For us thy sons to suffer and die.
Sent by Carlos André Pereira da Silva Branco
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djjd62
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 06:33 pm
ours is pretty mild

O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!
From far and wide, O Canada,
We stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 06:38 pm
@djjd62,
Nah.

It's way dumb.


But you guys get irony.


Wink
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Foofie
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 08:15 pm
@dlowan,
dlowan wrote:

United States of America

The Star Spangled Banner

Oh, say! can you see by the dawn's early light
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming;
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there:
Oh, say! does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore, dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In fully glory reflected now shines in the stream:
'Tis the star-spangled banner! Oh, long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution!
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Oh, thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n-rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust":
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.







Nothing like the peaceful and enlightened lyrics of other countries, is it, the Iraqi anthem?


The slave bit in the US anthem is especially ironic, don't you think?





This anthem was written in context of the War of 1812 against Britain. It does not have the same intent, I believe, as the Iraqi anthem if you study the two. Here is a nice history of the anthem, if you care to read it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._National_Anthem
dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 09:18 pm
@Foofie,
I am perfectly aware of the context of your anthem.

All dumb anthem writers doubtless have similar contextual excuses for their nonsense.





BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sun 14 Dec, 2008 09:37 am
I prefer that the U.S. anthem be America the Beautiful. The lyrics are lovely and the music is beautiful and easy to sing:

America the Beautiful
(lyrics by Katherine Lee Bates; music composed by Samuel A. Ward

O beautiful for spacious skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the fruited plain!

America! America!
God shed His grace on thee,
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea!
O beautiful for pilgrim feet
Whose stern impassion'd stress
A thoroughfare for freedom beat
Across the wilderness.

America! America!
God mend thine ev'ry flaw,
Confirm thy soul in self-control,
Thy liberty in law.

O beautiful for heroes prov'd
In liberating strife,
Who more than self their country loved,
And mercy more than life.

America! America!
May God thy gold refine
Till all success be nobleness,
And ev'ry gain divine.

O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears.

America! America!
God shed His grace on thee,
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea.

A Little Bit of History....
The lyrics to this beautiful song were written by Katharine Lee Bates (1859-1929) an instructor at Wellesley College, Massachusetts, after an inspiring trip to the top of Pikes Peak, Colorado, in 1893. Her poem, America the Beautiful first appeared in print in The Congregationalist, a weekly journal, on July 4, 1895. Ms. Bates revised the lyrics in 1904 and again in 1913. In addition to those changes in the words, it is notable that the poem was not always sung to the tune presented on this website ("Materna," composed by Samuel A. Ward in 1882, nearly a decade before the poem was written). In fact, for two years after it was written it was sung to just about any popular or folk tune that would fit with the lyrics, with "Auld Lang Syne" being the most notable of those. The words were not published together with "Materna" until 1910, and even after that time, the tune to be used was challenged to some degree. For example, in 1926 the National Federation of Music Clubs held a contest to put the poem to new, reportedly "less somber," music, but no other entry was determined to be more acceptable. Before her death in 1929, Ms. Bates never indicated publicly which music she liked best, but it now appears likely that America the Beautiful will forever be associated with "Materna."

http://www.americathebeautiful.com/vids/WEB_AmericaTheBeautiful_INSTRUMENTAL_NO_LYRICS.html
dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 14 Dec, 2008 03:21 pm
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
Beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder!
Thomas
 
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Reply Sun 14 Dec, 2008 04:56 pm
@dlowan,
You bet. Indeed, since I'm less diplomatic than you, I'm going to come right out and say that I find "America the Beautiful" kitschy to the point of nausea.

We need to give this country a better anthem. How about Woody Guthrie, "This land is your land ..."? I especially like the last two stanzas -- very up-to-date:

As I was walkin' - I saw a sign there
And that sign said - no tress passin'
But on the other side .... it didn't say nothin!
Now that side was made for you and me!

Chorus

In the squares of the city - In the shadow of the steeple
Near the relief office - I see my people
And some are grumblin' and some are wonderin'
If this land's still made for you and me.


dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 14 Dec, 2008 07:25 pm
@Thomas,
U(umlaut)ber cool!!!
dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 14 Dec, 2008 07:53 pm
@dlowan,
But why don't we all just come out and say what anthems are about:

My country is lots betterer than your steenking country.
Our men are manlier and hairier chested.
Our women are beautifuller and bigger breasted.
Our mountains are pointier
Our dope is jointier.
Our plains are wider and ever so sweepier,
Our grass is higher and ever so greenier,
Except where it's all golden and kissed by the sun
In that case it's far more like gold that's been spun
Than your rancid yellow that looks just like pee,
Oh mine is so better than your dumb countree!

Our soldiers are braver and fiercer and bold,
And only kill people when rightfully told
By leadier leaders who never are wrong
(not like your cretins who are just like Kim Jong)
Though valiant they're gentle, just like fluffy kits,
And their bombs never land on some innocent kids....
We never make war except on the bad,
And the mean and the evil and criminally mad.

Our country was forged in the noblest way,
In a fiery cruc'ble that hardened our clay,
(Not like you, who're still soft and sloppy and wet
And can't keep it up for a minute, I'll bet).
Our seas are much bluer, our beaches more gold,
Our young bits are younger, our older more old.
Our clever are cleverer, our dumber more dumb,
Our flora and fauna make yours look like scum.

Our political systems are better by far,
We're freer and cooler and never just blah.
Our hearts are far nobler, our ideals more ideal,
We're fierce, independent with backbones like steel.
Our love for our kiddies is purer and sloppy,
But if you cross us, we're ever so stroppy.
Our sun is far sunnier, our skies far more blue,
And our wonderful sunsets make yours look like pooh.
In fact, I must say it, though I blush just a bit,
My country makes yours and all others look like ****.

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Foofie
 
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Reply Sun 14 Dec, 2008 07:59 pm
@dlowan,
dlowan wrote:

I am perfectly aware of the context of your anthem.

All dumb anthem writers doubtless have similar contextual excuses for their nonsense.


Not being your anthem, it should not bother you. Do you not give credence to the fact that an individual's appreciation of an anthem may have the context of whether the anthem reflects a person's own country? If you choose to judge many anthems "nonsense," that is just your opinion. And, if you find others that agree with you, then you might have a small group of similar opinions; nothing else.
dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 14 Dec, 2008 08:59 pm
@Foofie,
And nobody but a complete idiot would have made the snide attack on BBB for posting the Iraqi anthem. Sadly, you doubtless have a large group of the blind who will be with you, however.

Your silly anthem does not bother me more than other silly anthems...but when you decide to criticise others no sillier than yours, your silliness bothers me in a minor way, as does other knee jerk nationalist blindness.

I think it's unhealthy for the world.
Foofie
 
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Reply Mon 15 Dec, 2008 11:28 am
@dlowan,
dlowan wrote:

And nobody but a complete idiot would have made the snide attack on BBB for posting the Iraqi anthem. Sadly, you doubtless have a large group of the blind who will be with you, however.

Your silly anthem does not bother me more than other silly anthems...but when you decide to criticise others no sillier than yours, your silliness bothers me in a minor way, as does other knee jerk nationalist blindness.

I think it's unhealthy for the world.


I never criticized other anthems? I never made a snide attack on BBB for posting the national anthem. I agreed with BBB for the value of posting the Iraqi national anthem.

My nationalism is not knee jerk blindness; it is based on the analysis of the other countries I could possibly live in, and the U.S. is the best country in the world for ME! I truly hope you are just as happy with your country, as I am with mine.
 

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