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Why does crime exist? what do poor people do when they cant eat?

 
 
OGIONIK
 
Reply Fri 28 Nov, 2008 05:15 pm
Hypothetical time.

You were born very poor, your parents are uneducated and drug addicts.

they teach you nothing.

all you know is what you see in the ghetto.

you turn 18, all of a sudden you are own your own, and before that your parents didnt supply you with neccessities either, so you have been selling drugs at school etc..stealking cars

you even did good at school, excellent in fact. and then youve always been to over 30 schools, moved over 35 times, so your network base is non existent.your teachers always praised you also.

you need to eat

you need housing

you need a job

you need a phone

you need an address

you need references

you need to know how to make a resume (most likely not, youll be getting a min wager)

a minimum wage job job does not grant you any of the previously mentioned things except maybe a phone.

really now. if i had a house id be spending 300% of my income on it, thats way over 30% my friends.

Seriously, what are your options?

id like some legitimate answers, not some stupid "try harder" bullshit, a lot of americans have this naivety, the scope of it is mind boggling sometimes.

the world is not fair, it is not easy, most people know this, but most people havent ever EVER starved. never really had any problems, ive heard this crap that rich people have problems like poor people, the answer is no, and accept your good fortune.

ive ate moldy frozen pizza for a month straight.

anyone else ?

i want real answers please, i know most people i irritate with this talk, but it is truth, i just want to know why everyone just expects poverty not to be real.
like it has no effect on your outcome in life, nature versus nurture nature is the problem, my ass.
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 28 Nov, 2008 05:25 pm
Oh, Please....there are food banks everywhere, religious organization using social service to recruit, various bands of do gooders doing their pet projects to "help" the unfortunates. There is no reason a healthy young white American male should be wanting for food and shelter.

As you have made clear in other posts you want what you want on your terms, and that is the problem. You need to work, work hard, suck up your pride, and look for opportunities to better your situation. Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity, you make you own luck.

Join the army, learn to get up at 430 am and work hard till 5 pm, get out in four years and use the new and improved GI bill to pay your way through collage.

NO WHINING!
OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Fri 28 Nov, 2008 06:14 pm
Hold on to your ******* hat folks... I agree with Hawkeye. Your punk ass would benefit greatly from joining the service... if they'll take you. They’d smack the whine out of you until you learned to own up to responsibility like an adult. Won’t take them 3 month to make up for whatever shortcomings your parents may have had and you’d be a better man for it. Imagine having a reason to be proud of yourself… instead of this incessant whining.
chai2
 
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Reply Fri 28 Nov, 2008 06:25 pm
@OCCOM BILL,
Well holy **** and hit me between the eyes with a ball peen hammer!

I agree with the both of you!
Rockhead
 
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Reply Fri 28 Nov, 2008 06:28 pm
@OGIONIK,
Onion, it's fight or die.

Within the rules is tougher, but much more satisfying.

(I gotta say I'm all for a No Whining Rule myself...)






chai, switch the **** and the hammer, and that gets funnier...
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 28 Nov, 2008 06:30 pm
@chai2,
well, holy ****, I can disagree with 3 peeps in a row.
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 28 Nov, 2008 07:08 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
Join the army, learn to get up at 430 am and work hard till 5 pm, get out in four years and use the new and improved GI bill to pay your way through collage.


And don't forget to thank Ma and Pa once a year.

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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Fri 28 Nov, 2008 07:55 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

Oh, Please....there are food banks everywhere, religious organization using social service to recruit, various bands of do gooders doing their pet projects to "help" the unfortunates. There is no reason a healthy young white American male should be wanting for food and shelter.

As you have made clear in other posts you want what you want on your terms, and that is the problem. You need to work, work hard, suck up your pride, and look for opportunities to better your situation. Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity, you make you own luck.

Join the army, learn to get up at 430 am and work hard till 5 pm, get out in four years and use the new and improved GI bill to pay your way through collage.

NO WHINING!


you see, this is a bs answer, i work hard, im always praised by my managers, i wake up at 3, not 4, and carry heavy boxes until 3 in the afternoon. in fact JUST TODAY my managers and supervisors were complimenting me, they didnt know i was listening, about how i never complain and am always on point when soemthing needs to be done.

and the miltary, is the WORST thing for me to do. even if i am in a non-combat jopb i am going to see my firends in infantry blown to peices, well now they have that new anti-tank mine vehicle but still.

all my friends who went to iraq came back different. not the good different like after boot camp. my cousin was in supply, he lost 7 friends, hes not even close to the same person. hes blank.

i cant join the military, i have PTSD, they dont want anything to do with me. i tried.
OGIONIK
 
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Reply Fri 28 Nov, 2008 07:56 pm
@OGIONIK,
god, what a joke. no real answers.


i knew it. but eh, what else did i expect from americans.
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Fri 28 Nov, 2008 07:58 pm
@OGIONIK,
btw, I never suggested you go be a soldier, onion.

I think mebbe finding a job let's you travel the US a bit is mebbe a good thing, but you gotta stay clean to make it work...
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 28 Nov, 2008 07:59 pm
Quote:
Why does crime exist? what do poor people do when they cant eat?


That question might have made sense in the early 1800s...

In today's world, it's almost invariably, what do they do when they can't shoot up?
OGIONIK
 
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Reply Fri 28 Nov, 2008 08:02 pm
@gungasnake,
most the poor people i know dont do drugs.

they just work. truly sad.

noone understands until its them, but this financial, scratch that, "governmental integrity" crisis, will wake everyone up. especially if it becomes as bad as that guy who made those fractals, i forget his name, he says it will get way worse.

monte, nah, ****, i give up. damnit! ingreu? someshit whatever, the math dude. yeah that works.

Rockhead
 
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Reply Fri 28 Nov, 2008 08:04 pm
@OGIONIK,
Onion...

it ain't ever been fair.

are you a victim, or a survivor?
JPB
 
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Reply Fri 28 Nov, 2008 08:06 pm
Assess the options and do what you can.

Got a job? Fabulous -- how many roommates do you need to make it cover the rent/food/utilities?

Can't get that many roommates? Answer a roommate wanted add. Someone with almost that many roommates is looking for you.

Hungry? Been there, done that. Ate hotdogs and rice 'a roni until I couldn't stand the sight of them and then ate them some more. Particularly the hotdogs because they were in the refrigerated section of the grocery store where I tended to wander when it was hot outside.

Bottom line -- get over the ******* idea that you can do this on your own and get yourself into a setting that makes it a little/lot bit easier.
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Fri 28 Nov, 2008 08:09 pm
@OGIONIK,
*public service announcement*

the middle class people, they do the most drugs. drugs are expensive DING DING! except weed, the poor people drug of choice. which is rather cheap.

yeah you, with your kids in highschool dressing in the weird flat billed ballcaps, and the skulls all over their clothes, the "bros", the skaters, the kid who you think is just acting out some gangster teen thing,the girl always hanging with shady characters, or even the preppy kid who noone would EVER think was addicted to coke.. yeah, hes doing it. the point of hiding something is that NOONE knows. :O

lol, they are prolly smoking heroine or doing lines of coke while you are in your bedroom surfing A2K or sleeping.

ive been there, wondering how the mom didnt know everyone was one heroine, smoking it off of squares of foil. chopped up pens and straws everywhere, why are we going through so much foil?

hopefully, none of you have found foil in random places, or burnt spoons, or short straws. but if you have Sad
OGIONIK
 
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Reply Fri 28 Nov, 2008 08:10 pm
@OCCOM BILL,
OCCOM BILL wrote:

Hold on to your ******* hat folks... I agree with Hawkeye. Your punk ass would benefit greatly from joining the service... if they'll take you. They’d smack the whine out of you until you learned to own up to responsibility like an adult. Won’t take them 3 month to make up for whatever shortcomings your parents may have had and you’d be a better man for it. Imagine having a reason to be proud of yourself… instead of this incessant whining.


funny you called me a punkass.

:/

"if theyll take me", good point, are you on my side or fuckin what?
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Fri 28 Nov, 2008 08:11 pm
@Rockhead,
a victim who survived.
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Fri 28 Nov, 2008 08:13 pm
@OGIONIK,
onion, I'm real...

weed stays in you for 30 + days.

most decent money jobs test you for drugs. (all transportation jobs)

I know you are a good guy, and wear your heart for us to see.

Nobody is going to help you but you, so start the ball rolling.

Good luck, my friend.

Rock
OGIONIK
 
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Reply Fri 28 Nov, 2008 08:23 pm
@Rockhead,
i havent smoked for months.

cant afford it. but ive found i have a liking for xanax..

**** is retarded. had to stop that before i eevn started,was getting it for from a stripper homegirl free, WAYYYY too good feeling, makes you forget everything. like valium times 10.

anyways, prolly get flamed for that, but im not an idiot,i dont ever do drugs more than once in a couple months.

im not lazy,im never late, i always do more work than needed, im not dumb,i didnt quit school, i just havent found whatever the **** makes you succeed. its not determination, if it was that id be a ******* millionaire. its not patience, its not working hard for sure.

still no real answers. what i get out of your respones is ruthlessly take whatever you need, becauses noone will give it to you, even if you earn it.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Fri 28 Nov, 2008 08:29 pm
@OGIONIK,
it's a plan, then the rest...

you need a plan.

(you'll be OK, just stay away from the poker...)

Oh, and take a look at what YOU think are real friends...
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