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Obama/ Love Him or Hate Him, We've Got Him

 
 
roger
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2008 04:07 pm
@FreeDuck,
FreeDuck wrote:

[I think they almost have to. They can't win with just the culture warriors. But yeah, I'm hoping for some Republican party reform. One party rule isn't good for anyone long term.


Exactly. Last time I was in Albuquerque, I mentioned to Dys that I might abstain from voting for president. Then I considered a Democratic House, Senate, and President.
FreeDuck
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2008 04:15 pm
@roger,
Yeah... I prefer to change the balance in congress than to have another Republican president, but I know where you're coming from. I had one senator and one congressman on the ballot. The senator was Dickhead Shameless (R) who I just can't stomach voting for. The other was John Lewis (D) running unopposed. I'd like to give them two more years and then turn the balance in the house first, then the senate. As long as we don't have folks trying to set up a permanent majority, I think we'll be ok.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2008 06:30 pm
@parados,
Quote:

Thank you for being a "real American" and supporting your president
elected by more than 50% of your fellow citizens.

R u implying that I have a DUTY to do this ?
If so, what is the source of this duty ?
Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2008 06:48 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
David- I can understand going against an elected official who has done something that one might consider wrong, immoral, or simply has not done a good job. In that case, as a citizen I think it is a duty to make a lot of noise.

Obama has done nothing yet. He isn't even in office yet. I am not terribly enamoured of him either, but give the guy a break. I think that he has won an election at a very difficult time in this country's history. His job is not going to be an easy one. IMO this is the time for the country to come together, not split apart.

No, it is not a duty to support the president, but in the interest of fairness I don't think people should jump on him at this point in time. Hey, after all of this, we might just be pleasantly surprised!
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2008 07:39 pm
@Phoenix32890,
Quote:

David- I can understand going against an elected official
who has done something that one might consider wrong,
immoral, or simply has not done a good job. In that case,
as a citizen I think it is a duty to make a lot of noise
.

I disagree. I coud live with that; small potatos.
I don 't care how many times Monica took care of Bill in the Oval Office.


Quote:
Obama has done nothing yet. He isn't even in office yet.
I am not terribly enamoured of him either, but give the guy a break.
I think that he has won an election at a very difficult time in this
country's history. His job is not going to be an easy one. IMO this
is the time for the country to come together, not split apart
.

Together with his Demos in Congress, he is going to disassemble
basic American freedom, which will never recover from that again.
I don 't like to sound apocalyptic, paranoid, nor psychotic,
but they are going to end America, as we know it; forever.

Whether we come together or split apart or whatever we do,
thay WILL have their way with America and absolutely nothing will
prevent that, under any circumstances.
It does not matter what anyone says or does.
We can only watch it happen.


I am usually an optimist, by nature.


Rockhead
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2008 07:42 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
"I don 't like to sound apocalyptic, paranoid, nor psychotic,
but they are going to end America, as we know it; forever."

Shocked




Dave...



take a valium, a deep breath, and exhale...

we are just correcting course back toward center.

(this is not armageddon, unless a bunch of militaristic crazies decide to try and make it so. )
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2008 07:56 pm
@Rockhead,
The turn is hard left, not center.
Oboy is the leftmost senator; serious left.

Thay are going to get their leftist jollies.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2008 08:03 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
well if you and shooter are gonna secede, let us know first, ok?

We been putting up with you guys long enough to deserve early warning, no???

(if you hold yer gun tight enough, your hand will turn purple...)
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2008 08:16 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
I don 't like to sound apocalyptic, paranoid, nor psychotic,
but they are going to end America, as we know it; forever.


David, you're supposed to be a smart guy. You sound all three and there is no, that's NO need for it. Just keep saying to yourself, "Whatever he does it isn't remotely possible that he can be worse than GWB".
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2008 08:18 pm
@JTT,
O, how DEVOUTLY, I wish that were true.
Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2008 06:36 am
@OmSigDAVID,
David- At this point in time, we don't know how all this will play out. Remember, a candidate needs to energize his/her constituency in order to get elected. What the person is actually able to accomplish when in office is quite another matter.

I am not happy that one party controls both the White House and the Congress. I would have much preferred is a mix that would balance each other out. But the people voted, this is what they wanted, and so be it.

Honestly, on a deep level, I sometimes become anxious over some of the same concerns that you have. But I have enough confidence in our government to know that the checks and balances will come into play.

Obama is not a fool. He knows that he can't do anything outrageous that would incur the wrath of many people, even within his own party.

David, take a chill pill and relax. It's going to be ok. Trust me. I never thought that the world would survive the 1960's, and here I am, talking about it, four decades later.
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Miller
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2008 07:29 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Based on the composition of Obama's"inner circle", it looks like the general public is about to get a major introduction to dirty Chicago politics.

David, you're right to be concerned. Only a fool would be otherwise.
Diest TKO
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2008 08:36 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
I don 't like to sound apocalyptic, paranoid, nor psychotic,
but they are going to end America, as we know it; forever.


You need to stop watching Mad Max before going to bed.

T
K
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2008 08:44 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Together with his Demos in Congress, he is going to disassemble
basic American freedom, which will never recover from that again.
I don 't like to sound apocalyptic, paranoid, nor psychotic,
but they are going to end America, as we know it; forever.


David- I have a deal to make with you. In eight years, if we are both alive and kicking, let's continue with this discussion. I suspect that the world will still be turning, the sun will rise in the morning, and we will be living lives possibly a bit, but not terribly different, than we are doing now. Deal???
Diest TKO
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2008 08:55 am
@Phoenix32890,
This is very similar to a deal/talk I had with a friend in 2000.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2008 09:21 am
@Miller,
Quote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:

... Obama will be an effective prez either way.

Cycloptichorn


The reaction of the stock market would suggest otherwise.


Miller- Have you been checking the market for awhile? I check my portfolio on the internet daily, and the market has been in the crapper for many months, long before the presidential election. It has also been like a roller coaster, one day way up, the next way down.

Remember, correlation does not equal causality!
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2008 09:51 am
@Miller,
Miller wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

... Obama will be an effective prez either way.

Cycloptichorn


The reaction of the stock market would suggest otherwise.


You're a moron.

I was thinking about you when Obama won the other night, Miller.

Cycloptichorn
CoastalRat
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2008 09:57 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Quote:
I was thinking about you when Obama won the other night, Miller.


I would have figured you had better things to think about Cy. I mean, thinking about getting you hands chopped off might have been better than thinking about Miller. Ewwwww!
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satt fs
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2008 05:00 pm
@Phoenix32890,
Anyhow, it is certain that the world will change. I prefer the result of this election in the U.S.A. I think I feel relieved after those 8 years of gloom.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2008 08:41 pm
@Phoenix32890,
Quote:

David- I have a deal to make with you. In eight years, if we are both alive and kicking, let's continue with this discussion. I suspect that the world will still be turning, the sun will rise in the morning, and we will be living lives possibly a bit, but not terribly different, than we are doing now. Deal???

Sure; Y not ?
I support the First Amendment, as well as the 2nd.

I do not anticipate that Oboy will have much effect on basic astronomy,
tho I expect him to gut the NASA budget.
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