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Creationist offers $7.5 trillion for evidence of evolution

 
 
Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2008 06:51 pm
$7.5 trillion for a 'transitional' fossil?

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Palaeontologists: this could be your lucky day. Turkish creationist Adnan Oktar has just offered ten trillion lira - a mouth-watering $7.5 trillion - to "anyone who produces a single intermediate-form fossil demonstrating evolution".

So, will Oktar cough up? Unlikely. You might call the problem the Sorcerer's Apprentice syndrome. Poor Mickey Mouse found out that every time he chopped up one of his magic brooms, the problem doubled as each half sprouted new legs and continued its duties.

Palaeontologists everywhere can sympathise with Mickey's plight. When a seemingly large evolutionary gap is plugged with a remarkable new fossil, as happened just the other day with the discovery of a new primitive turtle from the Triassic, it just leaves two smaller gaps on either side. Now, instead of one gap in the fossil record there are two, and creationists argue that the fossil record is, paradoxically, even worse than it was before the new discovery.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2008 10:12 pm
@Robert Gentel,
Damn, if we could only use the real definition of 'transitional' we could pay off the national debt.

And how did a Turkish Creationist get 7.5 trillion dollars anyway?

farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2008 11:39 pm
@rosborne979,
He cornered all the taffy futures.

I already sent him a fossil of a large clam with feet , wings, a tail, and some eye bumps on the shell. The shell even includes a belly button. He asked me for my deposit numbers. Do you think this is a 419 scam?
roger
 
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Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2008 11:45 pm
@rosborne979,
Lira - not dollars. I get the funny feeling there might be a big difference.
roger
 
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Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2008 11:46 pm
@farmerman,
You read the B.C. comic strip, right?
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2008 11:52 pm
@roger,
Our newspaper quit handling the BC strip . They instead added a strip with some alligators and zebras with speech impediments. The point of the strip is, by my careful observation, to point out that the web of life contains many specific adaptive niches (alligators must relish zebra flavor)
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Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2008 04:02 am
@roger,
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Lira - not dollars. I get the funny feeling there might be a big difference.


Just checked - the 'new' lira is worth about 70 cents US. However, there can't be 10 trillion of the ******* things in the whole country, let alone in his bank account.
Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2008 04:10 am
And what is 'evidence' to that sheep-shagger anyhow?

The events that cause speciation are measured in hundreds of thousands of years as changes occur to environment that push a species to either adapt or die out. These aren't replicable in the life-time of a human-being.

Could some-one tell this cretin that they've spotted Noah's Ark on Mt Ararat and he should mount a goa... expedition to find it. Or the Garden of Eden, that's close by too. Or the very rock that Moses hit with his staff to create a spring. Or the tomb of Abel...
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2008 08:57 am
@farmerman,
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I already sent him a fossil of a large clam with feet , wings, a tail, and some eye bumps on the shell.

Wait! You found a flying clam? I think you may have just found proof for Creationism.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2008 10:48 am
The guy's money is safe. There ISN'T ANY evidence of evolution, at least not on this planet.
rosborne979
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2008 12:08 pm
@gungasnake,
Every living thing on this planet is evidence for evolution. This guy's money is safe because he makes up the rules of the game (same as all the other Creationist Crackpots that have offered this scam before). He just made up a bigger number and got a bigger headline.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2008 01:06 pm
his bullshit has given him his fifteen minutes. Now we can all forget him and get back to work. (Except gungasnork, who is busy editing scientific journals for his cherry picking machine)
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JTT
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2008 05:50 pm
@gungasnake,
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Gunga: There ISN'T ANY evidence of evolution, at least not on this planet.


Nor in your postings.
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talk72000
 
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Reply Mon 13 Oct, 2008 06:02 pm
@Robert Gentel,
There is a bigger gap between the creationist and $7.5 trillion than in the fossil gaps. Fossils are rare as the creature must die in sandy dry location and quickly covered over before scavengers get at the carcass. All those dying in forested areas have their bones dissolved by the acidic rotting vegetation over the years leaving only a petroleum deposit for oil companies to drill for. Therefore it quite be natural to have gaps as mother nature does not have a cabinet to store all the remains of each dead specie in a cool dry storage basement in some spacious museum.
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Blickers
 
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Reply Wed 22 Oct, 2008 12:04 pm
@Mr Stillwater,
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Just checked - the 'new' lira is worth about 70 cents US. However, there can't be 10 trillion of the ******* things in the whole country, let alone in his bank account.


You got that right. Kudoes and congrats.

The GDP of Turkey is only 0.9 trillion. This guy is claiming to give away 8 times as much as the whole country has.

I wouldn't put too much faith in his judgment of scientific matters, or anything else.
Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Wed 22 Oct, 2008 07:16 pm
@Blickers,
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Kudoes and congrats


Indeed. My middle name is 'Infalibility'.

Anyway - we don't need a complete fossil record. The DNA evidence alone would be enough to 'connect-the-dots'. With fossils we have the physical form as well that fills in some of the gaps, how did an earlier form actually look like, what was the arrangement of bones, leaves, feathers, scales, etc
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