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@Robert Gentel,

Robert, if you started listing the list of people here who troll this site or regularly respond to those who do, the list would be long and deep. Your example is certainly not the one I would chose to list as the classic example of a troll-feeder, but then I'm not the one naming names.

Ok, maybe I will... joe LOVES trolling the trolls. It has "entertainment" value. O'Bill, ci, nimh, and others are all over those discussions. Gus is the biggest troll here (well, not so much lately) but he's a welcome troll and doesn't get nearly the attention of the possum manifestations because he's a Popular Troll!

A certain thread or two (or three or seven) has been ruined for you because a particular poster hasn't been adequately ignored? Then either block that poster or set up an administrative alert for those you want to see ignored by the masses so your viewing pleasure is no longer disrupted.

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@nimh,

Oh, please,You are embarrasing me with all this attention. Why are you so concerned about my posts. There is an ignore button you can use but most of the supercilous pusillanimous banners don't use it. I am convinced that they are afraid that my arguments will make them look idiotic in the eyes of the few non liberals on these posts so they really can't bear to push the ignore button.

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@kuvasz,

Why would any one have multiple personas? I would think they would be glad to keep their original monikers. Could it be that,before the advent of the ignore button, people went to mommy and cried--mommy,, mommy , he is a mean man and the man was banished.

What the crybabies did not say was that many of them were crushed by arguments they could not rebut so in a Nazi like fit, they burned him in the furnace.

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@ossobuco,

Why was he annoying? Do you remember. Be specific please!

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@OCCOM BILL,

How could it be a waste of bandwidth,Ocome Bill? Nimh says that he is amused. Are you going to deprive Nimh of his amusement? And,from time to time, people who KNOW that Kim Il Jong is dead just have to be brought up short. Unless of course, your ego is so sensitive that you cant stand to be shown to be wrong.

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@JPB,

JPB wrote:

Ok, maybe I will... joe LOVES trolling the trolls. It has "entertainment" value. O'Bill, ci, nimh, and others are all over those discussions.

Hey, I agree with most of that list and cringe when they rise to the bait as well. But I don't think any less of them for it, and I think you should also add me to the list. Especially in the past, I've liked engaging some kinds of trolls and probably still will in the future.

I'm sure I can do much better about this as well.

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Gus is the biggest troll here (well, not so much lately) but he's a welcome troll and doesn't get nearly the attention of the possum manifestations because he's a Popular Troll!

Just a few minutes ago I had the exact same thought, Gus is the best troll I've ever seen on the internet. He's funny as hell.

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A certain thread or two (or three or seven) has been ruined for you because a particular poster hasn't been adequately ignored? Then either block that poster or set up an administrative alert for those you want to see ignored by the masses so your viewing pleasure is no longer disrupted.

I think you are unfairly trying to tie my personal opinion to to the role I play in this site. I've made very clear that I don't want to try to impose this view on others administratively and that I'm just voicing my opinion.

I'd like to be able to speak freely and voice my opinons without it being portrayed as trying to lord over people with authority. Like I said, anyone is perfectly free to disagree with what I've said and do what they want. I'd have it no other way.

But that doesn't mean I no longer have an opinion on the matter, or that I shouldn't express it.

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@dlowan,

Thank you-Dlowan-- I would appreciate it if all of the LIBERALS put me on ignore so I could show the few Conservatives on these threads just how abysmally ignorant most of the LIBERALS really are. It would save me a lot of typing because I could destroy their arguments with just one post.I am sure most of the conservatives would enjoy that!

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@Robert Gentel,

A great post-Robert Gentel. My observation is that on these threads where most of the people are "lefties",the only irritants are those who do not agree with them and are not out and out butt kissers.

I have made this suggestion before but the super intellects among the "lefties" are either not so super or are afraid of being shown up. Why not gather together to beat up on the miscreant--to show just how wrong he was in his last post or to rub his nose in it. That, Robert Gentel, they can't do. On another thread, I encountered the estimable OccomBill who insisted that KimIl Jong was dead. I proved that a recent report from North Korea said he was not.

The "lefties" have no weapon other than Ignore( As I made clear,I welcome that and I am amazed that more do not use it) or name calling.

I will continue with my posts!

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@Merry Andrew,

Gasp-- You mean there are some people on these threads who are LIBERALS and have changed their names!!! Why?

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@nimh,

Oh, come on,Nimh- at least be truthful--There are outhouse toilets in Hungary. I saw them on my last trip to Europe!

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@SYNRON,

Some of you were already on my ignore list - what a stupid conversation you're having.

Feed the trolls vs don't feed the trolls. Who gives a shite? Everyone has a different reaction each day. Bloody hell. Live and let live. Click on by or use the Ignore Feature. This Ignore User is the best thing, even in the morass of mediocrity this site has become. I don't know why it has become this, but it has. It's almost a dead bloody bore.

Where did all the fun go? All the interesting conversations? There's only politics, games, and shite. The very odd thread is worth visiting, otherwise... blah.

Of course, this is just my opinion, of course.

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@JPB,

JPB wrote:

Robert, if you started listing the list of people here who troll this site or regularly respond to those who do, the list would be long and deep. Your example is certainly not the one I would chose to list as the classic example of a troll-feeder, but then I'm not the one naming names.

Ok, maybe I will... joe LOVES trolling the trolls. It has "entertainment" value. O'Bill, ci, nimh, and others are all over those discussions. Gus is the biggest troll here (well, not so much lately) but he's a welcome troll and doesn't get nearly the attention of the possum manifestations because he's a Popular Troll!

A certain thread or two (or three or seven) has been ruined for you because a particular poster hasn't been adequately ignored? Then either block that poster or set up an administrative alert for those you want to see ignored by the masses so your viewing pleasure is no longer disrupted.

Blimey! I'm the one who got a burr under my saddle and let fly about what I saw as Rob's attitude early on this thread...so I feel implicated in this post.....but I think it is quite unfair.

It has been made very clear that what the new site is about is less top-down decision-making and more power in the hands of members.

Clearly, therefore, mods are not going to be doing much banning and how we react to trolls is going to be the means of controlling them.

One of the good things about the new site, at least as I see it, is that Robert has been more active again...possibly partly because handing over the power to us makes his involvement less subject to projections about his power.

My particular burr was about manner, and I accept Robert's explanation that I was mistaken in my interpretation of what this implied......I am a bit of a fire-cracker, especially with people I truly like and respect (or loathe and despise), and Robert tends to cop the like and respect side of this because of his manner of expressing himself sometimes, for which I apologize (sometimes).

I think that having a problem with Robert expressing his personal desires re how we deal with trolls, and conflating that with fiats from the site operator, is unfair and kind of mean-spirited, and I would hate to see that affect his ability to participate in the site.

I know that I was a major contributor to this conflation, which I regret.

But really, I think Rob ought to be allowed to express his personal opinions without copping site admin flak.

If you are peeved because he named Rockhead, fine.....(I understand there is a lot of complexity happening there) but I think it unfair to move from that criticism to unwarranted fantasies about admin stuff, which clearly run counter to stated (and, I think, deeply felt) policy.

Mebbe we all obsess about trolls because some of us have formed a kind of village, over many years, and have the strengths and weaknesses of that social structure?

If so, it's not going to stop, because we see them as real threats to personal happiness.....or as fun objects of playful games.

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@Robert Gentel,

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I think you are unfairly trying to tie my personal opinion to to the role I play in this site. I've made very clear that I don't want to try to impose this view on others administratively and that I'm just voicing my opinion.

You may find it unfair, but your desire to be one of "us" and one of "them" can't be separated. One of the very first harsh realities of becoming a manager was that, although the only difference in me was one night's sleep, the very next day I became one of "them". It's not fair but it's real. You carry the burden of being the owner here. This is your site and your opinions carry more weight than anyone else's. It's something you can't divorce yourself from no matter how hard you may try. And naming names of those who you chose to set as an example weighs heavily as both a positive and a negative.

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@JPB,

Bingo JPB
It's about time someone who doesn't kiss ass said something.

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@JPB,

JPB wrote:

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I think you are unfairly trying to tie my personal opinion to to the role I play in this site. I've made very clear that I don't want to try to impose this view on others administratively and that I'm just voicing my opinion.

You may find it unfair, but your desire to be one of "us" and one of "them" can't be separated. One of the very first harsh realities of becoming a manager was that, although the only difference in me was one night's sleep, the very next day I became one of "them". It's not fair but it's real. You carry the burden of being the owner here. This is your site and your opinions carry more weight than anyone else's. It's something you can't divorce yourself from no matter how hard you may try. And naming names of those who you chose to set as an example weighs heavily as both a positive and a negative.

Do you think, though, that we can move beyond that?

Especially given the new structure?

A lot of my managers have also been my friends.....and it was clear where the normal social stuff ended, and the manager began....ditto with those I manage.

REally, I don't think it rocket science.......do you?

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@JPB,

JPB wrote:

You may find it unfair, but your desire to be one of "us" and one of "them" can't be separated.

This isn't about me trying to be one of anything, I just want to express my opinion without it being taken as anything but my opinion.

I realize that I can't do much about that if someone is determined not to, and anyone is free to take it how they like but it is in that spirit that I offer it. It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it (and if I'm not I can't get rid of it anyway).

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@Robert Gentel,

You've called my name twice...

I would PM you were that an option.

If you do not wish to converse publicly with me, I suggest you stop.

You are kinda being a shithead tonight, BTW...

(just my opinion...)

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@Robert Gentel,

Really? Can you please outline for me the reasons why YOU are entitled to an opinion and others are not? Do you need to be accepted in some sort of club? If you have me on ignore, never fear. I will contact a few who do not to see how supercilious you are!

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@dlowan,

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Blimey! I'm the one who got a burr under my saddle and let fly about what I saw as Rob's attitude early on this thread...so I feel implicated in this post.....but I think it is quite unfair.

It has been made very clear that what the new site is about is less top-down decision-making and more power in the hands of members.

Not implicated by me, deb. My position here is based on the owner of the site naming names without ANY interaction with the individuals so named. I think it was in poor taste and voiced my opinion accordingly.

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I think there is little doubt that Synron is really a previous troll under a new identity.

When a new member (troll) makes snide comments about the 3 year old health problems of long time members, there is little doubt that said troll has been here before. Especially when the snide comments closely mirror the comments made by that previous troll at the time of the health problems. I believe at least 2 of the previous incarnations on the list of names have made the same personal comments that would really only be known if the said present troll was the previous troll. No troll is going to take the time to read 3 year old messages to attack someone that has barely talked to them in this incarnation. I think the list of names is fairly accurate.

The same continual misspelling of my screen name by this troll as in previous incarnations also point to a repeat troll. I can understand your argument Robert that there are a lot of trolls out there but too many things are done and said by this troll for him not to be a reincarnation of at least 2 previous screen names.

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