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Guilty on all Counts: OJ Simpson

 
 
Reply Fri 3 Oct, 2008 11:55 pm
The verdict was just read in court.
 
Debra Law
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2008 12:06 am
@Debra Law,
There is a mandatory minimum sentence of 15 years on the kidnapping charge.
Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2008 12:08 am
@Debra Law,
You were faster than CNN could get their breaking news banner up. What sources are you using? TV?
Debra Law
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2008 12:09 am
Apparently, this guilty verdict came 13 years to the day after a Los Angeles jury acquitted him of the murder charges.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/10/02/oj.simpson.closings/index.html
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2008 12:09 am
@Robert Gentel,
I am watching on CNN
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TilleyWink
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2008 12:18 am
@Debra Law,
Finally we the people get some justice.
Debra Law
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2008 12:23 am
O.J. Simpson guilty in armed robbery, kidnapping trial

Quote:
LAS VEGAS, Nevada (CNN) -- Former gridiron great O.J. Simpson was found guilty of all 12 counts in the armed robbery of two sports memorabilia dealers at a Las Vegas, Nevada, casino hotel last year.

Simpson, 61, and his co-defendant Clarence "C.J." Stewart, 54, were charged with a dozen offenses stemming from the alleged sports memorabilia heist.

Stewart was also found guilty of the same charges as Simpson. Both men will likely spend the rest of their lives in prison....


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Debra Law
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2008 01:25 am
Timeline of major events in OJ Simpson cases

_ June 12, 1994 " Simpson's ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend Ronald Goldman are found dead in Los Angeles.

_ Oct. 3, 1995 " Simpson acquitted of two counts of murder in Los Angeles.

_ February 1997 " Simpson found liable for damages in wrongful death lawsuit and is ordered to pay $33.5 million to estates of Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson.

_ July 1997 " Bank claims Simpson's Brentwood, Calif., mansion in foreclosure sale. Goldman family lawyers seek Simpson assets to satisfy civil judgment.

_ Feb. 16, 1999 " Simpson's Heisman Trophy, other memorabilia auctioned; bidder later sets them on fire.

_ Oct. 24, 2001: Simpson cleared of all charges in a Florida case involving an alleged road-rage incident. He is represented by attorney Yale Galanter.

_ Nov. 20, 2006 " Publisher cancels book "If I Did It." Simpson calls ghostwritten book a fictional account of how he might have killed his ex-wife and her friend.

_ July 30, 2007 " Federal bankruptcy judge in Miami awards the rights of Simpson's canceled book to the Goldman family to satisfy wrongful death judgment.

_ August 2007 " Simpson fan, memorabilia dealer Alfred Beardsley calls collectibles broker Thomas Riccio to arrange sale of Simpson items in Las Vegas.

_ Aug. 21, 2007 " Riccio tells FBI that Simpson plans to confront a collector he believes is peddling stolen Simpson memorabilia.

_ Sept. 13, 2007 " The Goldmans publish Simpson's book as "If I Did It: Confessions of the Killer." Simpson, Clarence "C.J." Stewart, Walter "Goldie" Alexander, Michael "Spencer" McClinton, Charles Ehrlich and Charles Cashmore confront memorabilia dealers Beardsley and Bruce Fromong at the Palace Station casino hotel. Beardsley, Fromong report an armed robbery.

_ Sept. 18, 2007 " Simpson, McClinton, Stewart, Alexander are charged with nine felonies, including kidnapping.

_ Sept. 19, 2007 " Simpson freed on $125,000 bail, returns home to Miami.

_ October 2007 " Cashmore, Alexander and McClinton take plea deals, agree to testify against Simpson.

_ Nov. 28, 2007 " Simpson, Stewart and Ehrlich plead not guilty.

_ Aug. 4 " Ehrlich takes plea deal, agrees to testify against Simpson.

_ Sept. 8 " Jury selection begins for Simpson and Stewart.

_ Sept. 15 " Trial testimony begins.

_ Oct. 3 " Simpson and Stewart found guilty of all charges.

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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2008 01:35 am
Excellent! We’re not in Simi Valley anymore.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2008 01:38 am
I have a problem with this because justice was not served in this case. This case was used as a means to get society its pound of flesh that we should have gotten in 1995 for the double murder. this result should not be cheered, but we should understand that sometimes the majority will not denied.
OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2008 01:50 am
@hawkeye10,
Yeah... because kidnapping and theft aren't real crimes. Rolling Eyes Your turn's coming too, I am sure.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2008 02:33 am
Cool. O.J. gets what he deserves, after all this time. Wow, what a crazy rollercoaster life this guy had. Going from football legend and American hero to reviled scumbag criminal has got to suck.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2008 03:32 am
@hawkeye10,
The forensic evidence in the 95 verdict was, in many cases, manufactured. Like the sock that was supposedly worn by OJ, yet had blood seeping throught both sides of the ankle as one massive stain. That is forensically im possible, someone manufactured that one. Also the left evidence at Brentwood, is problematic also. I think that OJ was guilty, however, the zeal employed by the cops to close the case, allowed the verdict of "not guilty" as the only rational outcome.

In this case, all evidence was compelling and "clean". It amounted to eye witness, documentary, chains of evidence and accurate timelines. They got im good this time. This was a separate crime that when viewed dispassionately, the verdict was elicited by careful compounding of evidence and eye witness.
I dont believe the sentencing hering was held yet
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2008 06:54 am
HOORAY! I just hope that 15 years stick ; he should have gotten life in prison without the possibility of parole or the death penalty (when it was allowed during his murder trial). His is one of the very few cases I approve of the death sentence.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2008 06:59 am
@cicerone imposter,
This case stands alone, with no connection to the murder trial. He gets what anybody else would receive. I always believed he was guilty the first time, but would never in my mind convict him now on that basis. Justice is served.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2008 07:48 am
@edgarblythe,
edgar, I "know" it stands alone, but this creep won the murder trial. He lost the "civil" trial, but failed to pay it off. This is his third trial with plenty of irrefutable evidence, and finally he gets what's coming to him. I'm not about to "excuse" him for his not guilty and guilty plea on the basis of his third trial; no way. He's still the same murder.
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jespah
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2008 08:48 am
@farmerman,
Agreed, f'man. Plus the prosecution in the previous case screwed up in a lot of ways (e. g. they never effectively put OJ at the scene as they were too busy preening for the cameras). Like it or not, when things like that happen, the only verdict that can happen is not guilty. In a way, it's that the prosecution is punished with a bad verdict and no confidence from the public. Disproportionate? Absolutely. But the only thing that could have happened in the previous case.

Do I think he's a wonderful person? Absolutely not. But even horrible people deserve justice. IMHO, he got it both times. We the people didn't really get it last time but we definitely got it this time. He will appeal, of that I am certain. But I don't think it'll go that far. I think he'll be seeing the inside of a jail for many years to come, possibly the effective remainder of his life. So be it.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2008 08:58 am
@jespah,
I'm not so compliant with judgments, because there has been so many mistakes on innocent people being found guilty - then executed. I only understand that when man does most things, it's bound to make mistakes. Mistakes do not forgive murders. Yes, it's the only justice we have, but with all of its mistakes, I can come to my own conclusion about the results of any trial - most times because some groups have taken the time to investigate past judgments and corrected them.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2008 09:02 am
@jespah,
I believe the preponderance of evidence ought to have convicted OJ in the murder trial, despite a number of fgoofups by the prosecution and the judge. I did not base my conclusions at the time on emotionalism, and I certainly don't want to do it now. But, there would have been pretty good case for a retrial, based on the goofups.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2008 09:03 am
@edgarblythe,
Judge Ito is at fault for letting the dream team grandstand this trial.
 

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