Thu 7 Aug, 2008 05:35 am
Like conspiracy theories? The best one I know of is the one which says that the Byzantines once attempted to unite the two millenia which you'd get figuring time from Alexander (as they did) or from Christ, and that we are presently living about 1700 years after Christ and not about 2000 years as is commonly thought.

I don't really know enough about this one to have much of an opinion on it. People I've spoken to who do believe it note that we have reliable ways to figure time from the present back to the crusades and from the time of Christ to the fall of the Roman empire in the West, but not for the time between; some also note that there is no physical evidence on the planet for the existence of Charlemagne or the Carolingians who supposedly followed him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heribert_Illig

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_time_hypothesis
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contrex
 
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Thu 7 Aug, 2008 06:01 am
There isn't any physical evidence that Christ ever existed.
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gungasnake
 
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Thu 7 Aug, 2008 06:02 am
contrex wrote:
There isn't any physical evidence that Christ ever existed.


There's enough historical evidence.
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contrex
 
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Thu 7 Aug, 2008 08:42 am
Not enough to convince me.
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OGIONIK
 
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Thu 7 Aug, 2008 12:22 pm
yes ive heard there is no evidence that jesus existed..


especially when it comes tot he roman leaders who would have kept records of his deeds..

but i dont care really. biggest scam in history.
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gungasnake
 
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Thu 7 Aug, 2008 01:59 pm
The big difference is that you won't have to wait 2000 years to start reading about idiots who don't believe SlicKKK KKKlintler ever existed, I'd give it about 30 years starting from now.
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Vengoropatubus
 
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Thu 7 Aug, 2008 02:19 pm
To my knowledge, noone named "SlicKKK KKKlintler" has ever existed.
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OGIONIK
 
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Thu 7 Aug, 2008 03:57 pm
i love the conspiracy theory that asians are hybrids of aliens, and they are reptilian aliens, and white people are "pure" humans, evolved from blacks or someshit, and the aliens used to live on mars, and they destroyed their atmosphere and evaporated their water, and they need gold to clean their atmosphere and create water


and thats why gold is so valuable, oh yeah the hybrids were slaves to collect gold,adn given genes to make them go crazy for it..


i believe it, anyone else?

sike. errrr psyche...
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gungasnake
 
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Thu 7 Aug, 2008 05:38 pm
Vengoropatubus wrote:
To my knowledge, noone named "SlicKKK KKKlintler" has ever existed.


See what I mean? It's already started.
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rosborne979
 
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Thu 7 Aug, 2008 07:37 pm
contrex wrote:
Not enough to convince me.

Me either.
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gungasnake
 
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Thu 7 Aug, 2008 08:38 pm
The mistake people make with Jesus is thinking he was the first or only person ever to be heard from again after he had died; he was the last, or at least the last well documented case. In the time of the Old Kingdom of Egypt that had been common and there are a couple of stories in the OT like the ghost story in 1 Samuel 28 concerning King Saul, the prophet Samuel, and the "witch" of Endor.

But by the time of Jesus it had been centuries since the last time anybody had seen anything like that and people had started to become atheists and evolutionites. Jesus basically tried to put a stop to that, saying something like "Hey, I'm going to let these idiot Romans kill me in their usual gruesome fashion, and then in three days I'm going to come back.

There are sufficient historical reasons for thinking that the story is not fiction.
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Vengoropatubus
 
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Thu 7 Aug, 2008 09:48 pm
gungasnake wrote:
Vengoropatubus wrote:
To my knowledge, noone named "SlicKKK KKKlintler" has ever existed.


See what I mean? It's already started.


Seriously though, I have no idea whose name you're referencing there.
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gungasnake
 
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Fri 8 Aug, 2008 09:46 am
One other view on the subject of Christ's existence is the case of Sir William Ramsey:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Mitchell_Ramsay

or do google searches on 'william ramsey' and 'book of acts'.


Ramsey was a noted archaeologist who set off on a journey to disprove the historical basis of the New Testament and converted to Christianity based on what he discovered. Famous story.
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real life
 
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Sun 10 Aug, 2008 11:06 pm
contrex wrote:
gungasnake wrote:
contrex wrote:
There isn't any physical evidence that Christ ever existed.


There's enough historical evidence.


Not enough to convince me.


Maybe that's because you dont seem to know the difference.
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OGIONIK
 
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Sun 10 Aug, 2008 11:09 pm
asians are aliens!

gold to fix the martian atmosphere for our reptile overlords!


WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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farmerman
 
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Tue 19 Aug, 2008 04:29 am
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Maybe that's because you dont seem to know the difference.


I am forever amused at how, RL and gunga are quick to accept the stratigraphy proposed by Ramsay , which is the same type of evidence that displays the age of the earth. "IE "Younger layers lie atop older layers and time can be analyzed by various other means consistent with the stratigraphy"
CarbonSystem
 
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Tue 13 Jul, 2010 02:36 pm
jesus still loves you all
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gungasnake
 
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Tue 13 Jul, 2010 08:14 pm
@farmerman,
I'd never heard anything about Ramsey having any opinions on interpretations of stratigraphy. The impression I had was that he was a historian and an anthropologist.
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CarbonSystem
 
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Thu 15 Jul, 2010 12:56 pm
I'm misunderstanding here, is there a consensus that stratigraphy is a proper way to date archeological evidence found?
Or is it not accurate?
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