16 Percent Of US Science Teachers Are Creationists

Try and keep up before getting all emotional ros! :wink:

I said it.

From the original-related post: You can easily make this claim now because the examples proved out. You cannot prove that they were considered testable prior to thought of invention. That is a preposterous position to take.

baddog

I cant decide whether your obtuseness is a function of your religious beliefs or whether your religious beliefs are a function of your obtuseness.

Religion has nothing to do with this particular matter - nor does 'obtuseness'.

not so fast bunky

Yeah, I thought you'd try that . I don't consider laughing at your proudly-touted ignorance to be much of a reply, nor repeating that sentiment in a more verbose fashion.

Congratulations on sinking lower, though. Only you could do it!

Nice dodge to the question - again.

BBB
Why are there always people who like to get into boring pissing matches that spoil the truly interesting posting by intelligent people?

BBB

We wouldn't wish to spoil things for the intelligentsia, would we?

Ha, when provided with a completely perfect response as to why Creationists shouldn't be science teachers, BD has responded merely by obfuscating the issue.

No reason has been given as to why someone who isn't adequately qualified for the job can do the job.

The only proper response BD can give is to prove that Creationism or ID are scientific. But, seeing as they aren't, that would be a difficult proposition. Instead, BD has now tried to prove that established scientific concepts aren't scientific, which does not prove that Creationism or ID are scientific.

baddog1: What, you can't figure it out from context? There's almost nothing supporting your creationist nonsense in the peer-reviewed scientific literature. Go check out the Discovery Institute's website yourself, read the articles, read the controversy around some of them. It's amazing how desprately low they have to go to even list just a couple articles as in their favor.

Your question was, of course, loaded. It's sad that I even have to explain any of this.

Since this topic was about creationism's prevalence, though, I'll ask that we move this discussion to the creationism evidence thread, the one where you guys are supposed to be listing your evidence - it sounds like that's exactly what you think there is with your loaded question.

Hop to it!

Louisiana schools open to creationism?
Thursday, June 12, 2008 17:18 EDT
Louisiana schools open to creationism?
by Vincent Rossmeier - Salon

The next political flap over evolution is about to land right on one of John McCain's would-be running mates. On Wednesday, the Louisiana House passed a bill that would let the state's teachers change the way they teach topics like global warming, cloning and evolution, letting them discuss criticisms of evolutionary theory and use supplementary materials that some critics fear could include fundamentalist Christian publications.

The bill passed with a resounding 94-3 vote. As the state Senate has already passed a similar measure, the legislation will likely soon be up for Gov. Bobby Jindal's approval. Jindal is rumored to be under consideration as McCain's vice-presidential nominee. How he handles the evolution bill could wind up becoming a factor in whether he's chosen, as conservatives and liberals alike will be watching with some interest.

According to the Washington Times, a spokeswoman for Jindal said only that the governor would review the bill, not whether he would sign it. However, in a recent Boston Globe profile, Sasha Issenberg wrote that the bill is "expected to receive Jindal's signature upon passage." A New York Times piece from June 2 also stated that Jindal has questioned the validity of evolution. Jindal is Catholic, a faith that does not believe evolution contradicts biblical teachings. The governor also holds a degree in biology from Brown University.

The passage of the bill already has opponents of "creation science" in an uproar. The Rev. Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said in a statement, "It's time for Louisiana to step into the 21st century and stop trying to teach religion in public schools ... Laws like this are an embarrassment." His group will sue if teachers try to introduce religious materials into the classroom.

I would love to hear what both candidates have to say on the Creation/Evolution front. But I don't expect it to happen.

We know that Bush wants to "teach the controversy", which unfortunately for him, places him squarely in the moron category.

I assume Barak will want to avoid the dunce cap, but it'll be interesting to see if MCain chooses to wear the cap and pander, or avoid the cap.

ros wrote-



Here's another meaningless sentence-



Remedial English is what you need ros.

Why don't you pop blown up paper bags if making a noise is all you're interested in.

You can do Introductory General science later.

If Jindal signs it, hes off the ticket. If he signs it and isnt off the ticket, MCain will lose in a landslide. If He signs it and isnt off the ticket and Mcain wins, we can only get what we deserve. Well then be reviving Lysenko, Lamarck, and/Paley. We'll have voodoo for medicine and Henry Morris Jr as science advisor.

My "magnet school" idea will make a fortune.

ros said So true. I believe his GRE's were under 500.

Spendi said

Obama is very good on issues like this, I think. He seems to be pretty darn freethinking to me, but let's say... tactful enough to not bash the religious over the head with it, unlike McCain's over pandering to conservative Christians, which the evangelicals really don't seem to care for.

If Jindal were indeed selected as running mate, it would just bring up this tired issue for the umpteenth time. The reference to Paley is apt!

"Swift Boating" of Mcain would have a ready made subject basis. I see some good political fodder if Jindall either does or doesnt sign the bill. (Ive heard him talk at a wetlands institute at Tulane and I found him quite a compelling speaker and he sounds intelligent-so Im betting that he wont sign).


However, Louisiana politics , historically, has always transcended mere logic.