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Another HOA question in CA

 
 
jcboy
 
Reply Mon 21 Apr, 2008 06:38 pm
Our property management company is asking all residents to send them a copy of our vehicle registration reason being they are starting up a security patrol and any vehicle that doesn't belong on the property will be towed.

Wouldn't it be enough for them to ask for the license plate number, make and model of our cars? I just don't feel they have a right to see what we pay for taxes every year, which is on our registration.

Thank you in advance for your advice.
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jespah
 
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Reply Tue 22 Apr, 2008 07:23 am
Plus registration shows who owns the vehicle, not where it's parked.

They're being ridiculous. All they need are, like you said, the license # and the make/model of the vehicle. And nada else. It's not about rights or what they're "allowed" to ask for -- it's common sense. They give you a demand but by giving them this other information you are fulfilling their needs perfectly. If they have some other need -- and I can't see what that would be -- then they should be telling you what that need is, once they get the license #, etc. for you. And having a pretty piece of paper in their files is not an adequate enough need.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Tue 22 Apr, 2008 07:54 am
One homeowner associations rules re car parking
One homeowner associations rules re car parking:

ENCINITAS RANCH HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION PARKING ENFORCEMENT POLICY
Notice from Association Manager , Christina Jaeschke of NN Jaeschke, Inc

Effective March 1, 2006, the following parking enforcement policy will be in effect throughout the entire Encinitas Ranch HOA community. Enforcement will consist of towing vehicles at the owner's expense or the imposition of a fine in accordance with the recently adopted fine schedule highlighted in a letter to all homeowners on November 18, 2005.

The HOA management company, with the authorization of the HOA Board of Directors, has contracted with a professional parking control company to patrol and cite vehicles parked on HOA streets in violation of Association CC & Rs. The citation and towing of vehicles will apply only to vehicles parked on HOA streets and not in private driveways. The first citation can be considered a warning but, there will be no further notice thereafter. If any vehicle receives two or more citations within a thirty day period, the vehicle is subject to towing at the time of the second citation and any subsequent citation within said thirty day period.

As an alternative to towing a vehicle parked on HOA streets in violation of the CC & Rs, the HOA Board of Directors may elect to impose the $250.00 fine discussed below, subject to the same safeguards regarding notice and opportunity to be heard. The notice of violation would be given after the second parking control citation within a 30 day period.

As stated above, the citation and towing of vehicles pertains to vehicles parked on HOA streets. With respect to vehicles parked in private driveways in violation of Association CC & Rs, a separate enforcement policy will be in force. Vehicles parked in private driveways when available garage space is not being utilized for storage of said vehicle, will be subject to a CC & R notice of violation to the homeowner followed by an opportunity for the homeowner to challenge the validity of said violation at a duly noticed violation hearing. If, following said hearing, the Board determines that there was in fact a violation, the involved homeowner will be fined the sum of $250.00. There is no limit on the number of times this procedure can occur over any given time period so long as the homeowner allegedly in violation is given proper notice with opportunity to be heard.

Developer provided garage space must be used for the parking of automotive type vehicles before driveway parking can be resorted to with one exception. One restricted type vehicle/device described in CC & R Section 6.1.7 (b) may be parked in one garage space to the exclusion of one automotive type vehicle (described in Section 6.1.7[a]), which would then allow that homeowner to park the excluded automotive type vehicle in the driveway.


FINE POLICY OF THE ENCINITAS RANCH HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION

The Board of Directors shall have the authority to impose a fine for each violation found to be true after the homeowner has had an opportunity appear before the Board. An explanation or mitigation offered by the homeowner shall be considered in imposing of the fine. The decision of the Board shall be final.

The fine shall be $250 per offense.

In addition to the amount of the fine imposed, if the Board finds that the Association was required to incur any expense as the result of the conduct of the homeowner or the conduct of a family member, tenant, guest, contractors, household employee, pet or anyone else on the Association ground by the homeowner's invitation or permission, the homeowner shall be liable for the amount of the expense in addition to any amount imposed as a fine.

In the event the Board is required to take legal action to collect on fines, which have been imposed on a homeowner, the homeowner shall also be liable for all attorney fees and court costs incurred by the Association.

The Board may also have the power to initiate legal action against the homeowner to restrain continued and repeated violation of the Master Governing Documents, to recover the Association's costs caused by the homeowner, the family, tenant guest, contractors, household employee, pet or anyone else on the Association ground by the homeowner's invitation or permission.

Adopted: January 9, 2006
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Linkat
 
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Reply Tue 22 Apr, 2008 09:43 am
My board simply sent around a form to fill out that asked for liscence plate numbers and make, model. I would just send them that info and state in that you do not feel comfortable giving them your registration as it holds too much personal information. Either that or make a copy and white out whatever info you would prefer them not to have.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Tue 22 Apr, 2008 09:43 am
My guess is - they are probably asking for a copy just for ease of getting the info they need.
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fishin
 
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Reply Tue 22 Apr, 2008 11:07 am
Linkat wrote:
My guess is - they are probably asking for a copy just for ease of getting the info they need.


Agreed.

It's a HOA so, if it were me, I'd bring it up at the next assoc. meeting. The management Co. works for the HOA, not the other way around. Chat it up amongst the other homeowners and get them all to attend the next meeting and raise the issue there.
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sullyfish6
 
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Reply Fri 30 May, 2008 04:28 pm
Contact a Board member and ask if the MC was directed by the Board to issue this "edict."

This policy should have come from the Board; the MC has no right to ask this kind of info from residents.

Complain directly to the Board. The Board manages and directs the MC, not the other way around.
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