Bashers; What's In It For You?

I there are some Christians who attempt to force their beliefs on others, by attempting to change laws so that they are consonant with their beliefs.

Why does one feel the need to bash Jesus and Christians?

Is it due to:

A Superiority Complex?

A God Complex? :wink:

An Inferiority Complex?

A Know It All Syndrome?

???????

What's the pay-off in doing this?

Phoenix32890 wrote:

I there are some Christians who attempt to force their beliefs on others, by attempting to change laws so that they are consonant with their beliefs.

Not to get off track here, but I take it you would be against any group of people attempting to change the law to coincide with that group's beliefs. Interesting belief, but I wonder if you really believe that.

Ok, back to the discussion at hand.

So you would be all for eliminating all laws that invade a person's private life, correct? I'd probably back you up on that, but I still don't think that is what you meant.

Not to get off track here, but I take it you would be against any group of people attempting to change the law to coincide with that group's beliefs.

So you would be all for eliminating all laws that invade a person's private life, correct? I'd probably back you up on that . . .

What's the pay-off in doing this?

e_brown, what I am wondering is why this would upset anyone. Gay organizations are trying to inject they beliefs into politics. Death penalty opponents are trying to inject their beliefs into politics. The NAACP tries to inject their beliefs into politics. I could go on and on. So my question is, do you object to members of those organizations in the same manner you object to Christians.

I know this got off the subject. As I originally stated, I don't think this forum is full of Christian "bashing." But, in my opinion, the reason given by Phoenix for resenting Christians was a case of just looking for an excuse to justify behaviour and not really thought through.

CoastalRat wrote:

Not to get off track here, but I take it you would be against any group of people attempting to change the law to coincide with that group's beliefs.

Why can't one just be against the stupid/wrong ones? Why must all beliefs be treated equally in the court of one's personal opinion?

For example, I am strongly against NAMBLA's efforts to change legislation to suit their beliefs.

That doesn't mean I have to condemn all groups who try to influence a government.

In addition to that, CR may well be endorsing things in which he doesn't believe, when he writes:

CoastalRat wrote:

So you would be all for eliminating all laws that invade a person's private life, correct? I'd probably back you up on that . . .

Upon that basis, one could reasonably allege that CR has no business to interfere in a woman's right to have an abortion.

CoastalRat,

Many of the political views that most modern American Christians take upset me-- partially because I am opposed to these views; but also because I think they are hypocritical and their use of religion is inappropriate.

But that is my opinion. I do not "object" if by object you mean "think they should be silenced". And I agree with you that we, as a society, shouldn't keep Christians from having their political say as much as anyone else.

But why should Christians complain about "bashing" more than anyone else (since bashing here means saying something against them)?

Many people are angry at modern American Christians. Speaking out and opposing them are completely appropriate responses... and even insulting or mocking Christians is part of discourse in a free society.

American Christians are constantly bashing other groups-- from homosexuals, to secularists and even to American Christians of other races.

If you are arguing fairness, CostalRat, don't you think that for a Christian to complain about being insulted by others, after all the self-righteous insults that Christians heap on their neighbors, is a little silly?

I am not saying that anyone should be silenced... bashing is, apparently, part of the free society we live in.

I am only saying that many Americans are expressing anger toward Christians. This is both a legitimate part of public life, and completely understandable given the way Christians act these days.

ebrown_p wrote:

CoastalRat,

Many of the political views that most modern American Christians take upset me-- partially because I am opposed to these views; but also because I think they are hypocritical and their use of religion is inappropriate.

But that is my opinion. I do not "object" if by object you mean "think they should be silenced". And I agree with you that we, as a society, shouldn't keep Christians from having their political say as much as anyone else.

But why should Christians complain about "bashing" more than anyone else (since bashing here means saying something against them)?

Many people are angry at modern American Christians. Speaking out and opposing them are completely appropriate responses... and even insulting or mocking Christians is part of discourse in a free society.

American Christians are constantly bashing other groups-- from homosexuals, to secularists and even to American Christians of other races.

If you are arguing fairness, CostalRat, don't you think that for a Christian to complain about being insulted by others, after all the self-righteous insults that Christians heap on their neighbors, is a little silly?

I am not saying that anyone should be silenced... bashing is, apparently, part of the free society we live in.

I am only saying that many Americans are expressing anger toward Christians. This is both a legitimate part of public life, and completely understandable given the way Christians act these days.

This may be a surprise to you, but I do think it is a bit silly for anyone to complain about Christians being "bashed" on here. Per my initial posting here, I don't think it happens all that much. And when it does, I take it in stride just as I do when someone should "bash" me or others for my conservative views. I'm a big boy and I can take it. I try not to "bash" others for their beliefs. I try not to belittle or ridicule other's beliefs. Those are my values. I have no control over anyone else's choice of words on this forum. And I'm fine with that. If I see a discussion degenerate into ridicule, I choose to leave it and not participate. Doesn't mean I have a problem with it, just that I choose not to get involved for fear that I will lower myself to their level.

Hope this clears things up. At least where my opinion is concerned.