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What to do with (European) crumpling churches

 
 
Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 08:25 am
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 08:26 am
http://i32.tinypic.com/rkvh8p.jpg
Source: Albuquerque Journal, 12.04.08, page B3

In my hometown, this 13th century church (owned previously by the Evangelical Church) ...

http://i27.tinypic.com/2urrwih.jpg

... became a 'music and culture event house'.

In the Netherlands, I've seen the main churchers of some towns ['Grote Kerk] being changed e.g. to a store (here: Hoorn, on the Jisselmeer)
http://www.aknw.de/data/aktuelles/detail/big-1128583745-9866377.jpg
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 08:37 am
And then there's the terrific bookstore in a 13th century Dominican church in Maastricht -

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/art/architecture/story/0,,2271875,00.html

an idea which appeals to me a lot.

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/04/09/bs372x192.jpg
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 10:24 am
In Britain, quite a couple of former churches are restaurants/bars now ...

http://www.stratfordsummermusic.ca/ssm2002/images/locations_churchrestaurant.jpg
(Northhampton)

http://i29.tinypic.com/2irtcg.jpg
(Glasgow)
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Francis
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 10:35 am
I don't mind sacrifying some churches on the altar of gastronomy..
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 10:35 am
Back in the seventies in Venice, California, one of the local artists and her psychiatrist husband bought a local church and renovated it as studiolliving quarters, doing quite a nice job of the renovation. It wasn't a church building of the age and stature of the others being shown here in Europe, but it had some architectural presence. I don't suppose they are still there, but the building still is.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 10:40 am
I can't imagine Americans going for such an idea as making a former Church building into a restaurant. The Church is the spirit that arises in congregation, but Americans think that it is the building. I love the idea of the bookstore inside of a former Church building, but sadly books are increasingly looking obsolete as well.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 10:44 am
I think it's been done in the US, Hawkeye, but maybe it's my skewed memory of a place. I'll see if I can find an example.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 10:53 am
On a quick look, here are a couple of efforts...


http://www.boston.com/travel/explorene/maine/articles/2007/09/12/meetinghouse_restaurant_is_out_of_the_way_but_out_of_this_world/


http://www.yelp.com/biz/church-brew-works-and-restaurant-pittsburgh
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 10:59 am


Interesting....thanks.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 11:15 am
If I ever get back to Europe, that Maastricht bookstore is on my route.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 01:02 pm
in canada many old country churches ( they are often located outside villages - just somewhere on a country side road ) can now puchased to be used as country houses , workshop - what have you ).
similarly , many of the old village schools have now been closed and are sold to anyone to be used as desired .
with the move to consolidated schools , there are now many of these buildings on the market .
locally , the masons sold their masonic temple and it has been turned into a theatre .
hbg

old "clap board" country church

http://www.pchswi.org/archives/church/graphics_church/PloverMethodist2.jpg

kingston's former MASONIC TEMPLE - built in 1864 as a congregational church

http://boldts.net/photos/MasonicTemple.jpeg
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littlek
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 01:12 pm
The Medieval town of Barga in Tuscany has a church at its highest point. When we visited in 1999 it had bolts keeping a large crack in the wall from expanding. Some structural damage had been done by a recent earthquake, if I remember correctly.

http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/6837/Images/Image1.jpg
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 01:24 pm
"Osso's Maastricht church" (now Selexyz Dominicanen, formerly the old Dominican Church) has been until 2006 (when it became that bookshop) a parking garage for bicycles

http://i28.tinypic.com/wstg9k.jpg


[Construction of the church of the Dominicans was started in 1267, and it was finished about 1280.]
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hamburger
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 01:41 pm
quite a few of toronto's old churches have been converted into (rather expensive !!!) "lofts" .

the former VICTORIA CHURCH

http://www.victorialofts.ca/images/gallery_current/04_BIG.jpg
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Mame
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 02:43 pm
"crumpling" or "crumbling" ? Smile

Somewhere in Italy we visited a bunch of artisans inhabiting a not-so-crumbling castle. It was great to see, after visiting all the derelict castles in the UK.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 03:04 pm
Mame wrote:

Somewhere in Italy we visited a bunch of artisans inhabiting a not-so-crumbling castle. It was great to see, after visiting all the derelict castles in the UK.



I could imagine that there's a tiny difference between the original purpose of a castle and that of a church :wink:

(On the other hand I'm sure that you'll find as many Italian castelli whereconservazione e restauro should be done as there are derelicted castles on the British Isles.)
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hamburger
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 04:03 pm
this former church in toronto is for sale at $2,480,000 - a real bargain in toronto's hot real state market

http://imagesb.backpage.com/centralimages/yyz/29/2908507cc2ef0be4b493401c20782f21--2--24Cecil031jpg--large.jpg


find details here :
TORONTO CHURCH FOR SALE
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Eva
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 05:25 pm
Although it has been closed for a couple of years, there is an older church building here in Tulsa that became a fairly well-known recording studio for a number of years. Let me find the dates...

Ah, here it is.

"The Church Studio" was begun by Leon Russell in 1972.

http://www.admiraltwin.com/images/churchstudio/Church%20Studio.gif
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 05:39 pm
Well, two emotional hits..

in that the photo of Maastricht, dominican church with bicycles makes me cry. So wrong.

I'm no fan of the dominicans over the ages.

But I don't mind books there. Books of all sorts. In fact.... I revel in that.

I wonder, did they leave all this on the periphery?

I can get people who feel violated by all this.

Snort, thinking of my contorted exchanges with sellers in Rome iconic churches... (one thought I was portughese from my dress).. and that was inside the church.



And Barga, I'd love to check out Barga.

I've read about it a few times since hearing about it from littleK.

Oh, and glorious picture.



I'm trying to figure myself out. I don't like seeing churches mocked. Argued with, sure, I'd probably agree with all.

I guess mocking is a fine point for me. Not that anyone on this thread is doing all that. Just thinking while typing.
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