Black Theology?

Do we have to pick? I like both versions:

real life wrote:

Miller wrote:

Why should there be "Black Theology"?

Is God black?

The 'Black Theology' championed by James Cone (mentioned by Obama's pastor Jeremiah Wright as one of his foundational influences for preaching a 'Black Values System' ) is one in which God is only accepted if He supports killing whites.

Quote:

Barack Obama's suddenly radioactive pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, has defended himself against charges of anti-Americanism and racism by referring to his foundational philosophy, the "black liberation theology" of scholars such as James Cone, who regard Jesus Christ as a "black messiah" and blacks as "the chosen people" who will only accept a god who assists their aim of destroying the "white enemy."

"If God is not for us and against white people," writes Cone, "then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill gods who do not belong to the black community."................

..............Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill gods who do not belong to the black community
... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.

from http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59230

real life, do you think the depiction of Jesus down through time a person with the characteristics of an anglo/European is indicative of an ethnocentrism within the origins of contemporary Christianity? If so, then how do you reconcile that ethnocentricity with the gospel that makes all equal in Jesus - Jew, Greek, male, female, slave and free? If not, then why hasn't Jesus been depicted in a way that is more probably how he looked, being Hebrew - broader nose, darker skin, kinkier hair?

The black theologian must reject any conception of God which stifles black self-determination by picturing God as a God of all peoples. Either God is identified with the oppressed to the point that their experience becomes God's experience, or God is a God of racism

"It is important to make a further distinction here among black hatred, black racism, and Black Power. Black hatred is the black man's strong aversion to white society. No black man living in white America can escape it...But the charge of black racism cannot be reconciled with the facts. While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism

JERUSALEM - Sen. Barack Obama's Chicago church reprinted a manifesto by Hamas that defended terrorism as legitimate resistance, refused to recognize the right of Israel to exist and compared the terror group's official charter - which calls for the murder of Jews - to America's Declaration of Independence.

The Hamas piece was published on the "Pastor's Page" of the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter reserved for Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., whose anti-American, anti-Israel remarks landed Obama in hot water, prompting the presidential candidate to deliver a major race speech earlier this week.

Hamas, responsible for scores of shootings, suicide bombings and rocket launchings against civilian population centers, is listed as a terrorist group by the U.S. State Department.

The revelation follows a recent WND article quoting Israeli security officials who expressed "concern" about Robert Malley, an adviser to Obama who has advocated negotiations with Hamas and providing international assistance to the terrorist group.

In his July 22, 2007, church bulletin, Wright reprinted an article by Mousa Abu Marzook, identified in the newsletter as a "deputy of the political bureau of Hamas." A photo image of the newsletter was captured and posted today by the business blog BizzyBlog. The Hamas piece was first published by the Los Angeles Times, garnering the newspaper much criticism.

According to senior Israeli security officials, Marzook, who resides in Syria alongside Hamas chieftain Khaled Meshaal, is considered the "brains" behind Hamas, designing much of the terror group's policies and ideology. Israel possesses what it says is a large volume of specific evidence that Marzook has been directly involved in calling for or planning scores of Hamas terrorist offensives, including deadly suicide bombings. He was also accused of attempting to set up a Hamas network in the U.S.

Marzook's original piece was titled, "Hamas' stand" but was re-titled "A Fresh View of the Palestinian Struggle" by Obama's church newsletter. The newsletter also referred to Hamas as the "Islamic Resistance Movement................

Green Witch wrote:

Do we have to pick? I like both versions:

I might pay to see them both naked..

snood wrote:

real life wrote:

Miller wrote:

Why should there be "Black Theology"?

Is God black?

The 'Black Theology' championed by James Cone (mentioned by Obama's pastor Jeremiah Wright as one of his foundational influences for preaching a 'Black Values System' ) is one in which God is only accepted if He supports killing whites.

Quote:

Barack Obama's suddenly radioactive pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, has defended himself against charges of anti-Americanism and racism by referring to his foundational philosophy, the "black liberation theology" of scholars such as James Cone, who regard Jesus Christ as a "black messiah" and blacks as "the chosen people" who will only accept a god who assists their aim of destroying the "white enemy."

"If God is not for us and against white people," writes Cone, "then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill gods who do not belong to the black community."................

..............Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill gods who do not belong to the black community
... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.

from http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59230

real life, do you think the depiction of Jesus down through time a person with the characteristics of an anglo/European is indicative of an ethnocentrism within the origins of contemporary Christianity? If so, then how do you reconcile that ethnocentricity with the gospel that makes all equal in Jesus - Jew, Greek, male, female, slave and free? If not, then why hasn't Jesus been depicted in a way that is more probably how he looked, being Hebrew - broader nose, darker skin, kinkier hair?

What relevance does Jesus physical appearance have when discussing whether He would approve a theology which teaches the destruction of whites?

Artistic representations of Christ are meaningless, IMHO, in this discussion.

I couldn't care less how brown His skin was or wasn't.

Does that give ANYbody an excuse to use Christian theology to kill those that don't look like them?

You may say, 'well, many years ago white Europeans HAVE misused theology to support some awful things...........'

Did your parents tell you that two wrongs don't make a right?

Are you willing to defend the teaching of hate and racism that Obama has submitted himself and his children to for 20 years?

Obama's pastor and mentor of 20 years, Dr Wright , preaches a 'Black Value System' based on the work of James Cone and others. Cone writes :

Quote:

The black theologian must reject any conception of God which stifles black self-determination by picturing God as a God of all peoples. Either God is identified with the oppressed to the point that their experience becomes God's experience, or God is a God of racism

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cone_%28theologian%29

Quote:

"It is important to make a further distinction here among black hatred, black racism, and Black Power. Black hatred is the black man's strong aversion to white society. No black man living in white America can escape it...But the charge of black racism cannot be reconciled with the facts. While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cone_%28theologian%29


More on Obama's church:

Quote:

JERUSALEM - Sen. Barack Obama's Chicago church reprinted a manifesto by Hamas that defended terrorism as legitimate resistance, refused to recognize the right of Israel to exist and compared the terror group's official charter - which calls for the murder of Jews - to America's Declaration of Independence.

The Hamas piece was published on the "Pastor's Page" of the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter reserved for Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., whose anti-American, anti-Israel remarks landed Obama in hot water, prompting the presidential candidate to deliver a major race speech earlier this week.

Hamas, responsible for scores of shootings, suicide bombings and rocket launchings against civilian population centers, is listed as a terrorist group by the U.S. State Department.

The revelation follows a recent WND article quoting Israeli security officials who expressed "concern" about Robert Malley, an adviser to Obama who has advocated negotiations with Hamas and providing international assistance to the terrorist group.

In his July 22, 2007, church bulletin, Wright reprinted an article by Mousa Abu Marzook, identified in the newsletter as a "deputy of the political bureau of Hamas." A photo image of the newsletter was captured and posted today by the business blog BizzyBlog. The Hamas piece was first published by the Los Angeles Times, garnering the newspaper much criticism.

According to senior Israeli security officials, Marzook, who resides in Syria alongside Hamas chieftain Khaled Meshaal, is considered the "brains" behind Hamas, designing much of the terror group's policies and ideology. Israel possesses what it says is a large volume of specific evidence that Marzook has been directly involved in calling for or planning scores of Hamas terrorist offensives, including deadly suicide bombings. He was also accused of attempting to set up a Hamas network in the U.S.

Marzook's original piece was titled, "Hamas' stand" but was re-titled "A Fresh View of the Palestinian Struggle" by Obama's church newsletter. The newsletter also referred to Hamas as the "Islamic Resistance Movement................

from http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59456

real life wrote:

snood wrote:

real life wrote:

Miller wrote:

Why should there be "Black Theology"?

Is God black?

The 'Black Theology' championed by James Cone (mentioned by Obama's pastor Jeremiah Wright as one of his foundational influences for preaching a 'Black Values System' ) is one in which God is only accepted if He supports killing whites.

Quote:

Barack Obama's suddenly radioactive pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, has defended himself against charges of anti-Americanism and racism by referring to his foundational philosophy, the "black liberation theology" of scholars such as James Cone, who regard Jesus Christ as a "black messiah" and blacks as "the chosen people" who will only accept a god who assists their aim of destroying the "white enemy."

"If God is not for us and against white people," writes Cone, "then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill gods who do not belong to the black community."................

..............Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill gods who do not belong to the black community
... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.

from http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59230

real life, do you think the depiction of Jesus down through time a person with the characteristics of an anglo/European is indicative of an ethnocentrism within the origins of contemporary Christianity? If so, then how do you reconcile that ethnocentricity with the gospel that makes all equal in Jesus - Jew, Greek, male, female, slave and free? If not, then why hasn't Jesus been depicted in a way that is more probably how he looked, being Hebrew - broader nose, darker skin, kinkier hair?

What relevance does Jesus physical appearance have when discussing whether He would approve a theology which teaches the destruction of whites?

Artistic representations of Christ are meaningless, IMHO, in this discussion.

I couldn't care less how brown His skin was or wasn't.

Does that give ANYbody an excuse to use Christian theology to kill those that don't look like them?

You may say, 'well, many years ago white Europeans HAVE misused theology to support some awful things...........'

Did your parents tell you that two wrongs don't make a right?

Are you willing to defend the teaching of hate and racism that Obama has submitted himself and his children to for 20 years?

Obama's pastor and mentor of 20 years, Dr Wright , preaches a 'Black Value System' based on the work of James Cone and others. Cone writes :

Quote:

The black theologian must reject any conception of God which stifles black self-determination by picturing God as a God of all peoples. Either God is identified with the oppressed to the point that their experience becomes God's experience, or God is a God of racism

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cone_%28theologian%29

Quote:

"It is important to make a further distinction here among black hatred, black racism, and Black Power. Black hatred is the black man's strong aversion to white society. No black man living in white America can escape it...But the charge of black racism cannot be reconciled with the facts. While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cone_%28theologian%29


More on Obama's church:

Quote:

JERUSALEM - Sen. Barack Obama's Chicago church reprinted a manifesto by Hamas that defended terrorism as legitimate resistance, refused to recognize the right of Israel to exist and compared the terror group's official charter - which calls for the murder of Jews - to America's Declaration of Independence.

The Hamas piece was published on the "Pastor's Page" of the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter reserved for Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., whose anti-American, anti-Israel remarks landed Obama in hot water, prompting the presidential candidate to deliver a major race speech earlier this week.

Hamas, responsible for scores of shootings, suicide bombings and rocket launchings against civilian population centers, is listed as a terrorist group by the U.S. State Department.

The revelation follows a recent WND article quoting Israeli security officials who expressed "concern" about Robert Malley, an adviser to Obama who has advocated negotiations with Hamas and providing international assistance to the terrorist group.

In his July 22, 2007, church bulletin, Wright reprinted an article by Mousa Abu Marzook, identified in the newsletter as a "deputy of the political bureau of Hamas." A photo image of the newsletter was captured and posted today by the business blog BizzyBlog. The Hamas piece was first published by the Los Angeles Times, garnering the newspaper much criticism.

According to senior Israeli security officials, Marzook, who resides in Syria alongside Hamas chieftain Khaled Meshaal, is considered the "brains" behind Hamas, designing much of the terror group's policies and ideology. Israel possesses what it says is a large volume of specific evidence that Marzook has been directly involved in calling for or planning scores of Hamas terrorist offensives, including deadly suicide bombings. He was also accused of attempting to set up a Hamas network in the U.S.

Marzook's original piece was titled, "Hamas' stand" but was re-titled "A Fresh View of the Palestinian Struggle" by Obama's church newsletter. The newsletter also referred to Hamas as the "Islamic Resistance Movement................

from http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59456

I see you deigned to answer my questions. What it "has to do" with anything is that this thread is titled "Black Theology", and attempts to tie the worst possible things Wright has said to some "black" kind of christianity - an ugly, worthless endeavor. So, I asked a question that delves into the idea of there being a "white" kind of christianity - equally distasteful, and ultimately moot. Your issues prevent you from seeing any point that doesn't bash Obama.

Well, I know one thing for sure......Theres no way in hell I could convince anybody Jesus was a mexican.

Wait a minute?.....nope, that wont fly.

Yeah, interesting as heck that Jesus may have actually looked like he could have the middle name Mohamad.

I understand that since these things you say disqualify him in your opinion, you won't be supporting him, and encourage others not to, as well. done. Gotcha.

It's the other dozens of posts where you keep repeating a version of the above that make me ask about your motive.

The vision statement of Trinity United Church of Christ is based upon the systematized liberation theology that started in 1969 with the publication of Dr. James Cone's book, Black Power and Black Theology.

The black theologian must reject any conception of God which stifles black self-determination by picturing God as a God of all peoples.

Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. . . . Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love