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Sun 9 Mar, 2008 03:06 pm
According to exit polls and after counting one third of the votes, the ruling Socialists win in Spain, even an absolute majority is (still) possible.
Quote:The polls on three Spanish television stations gave Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero's Socialist Party between 163 and 176 seats in the 350-member parliament against 145 and 152 for the conservative opposition Popular Party (PP) of Mariano Rajoy.
Partial official results confirmed the exit poll trend. With 33.09 percent of votes counted, the Socialist Party was predicted to secure 170 seats and the PP 150, the interior ministry said on its website.
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I still thin Zapatero looks like Mr Bean
Senor Bean
Senor Zapatero
You discovered tepid water, Hingehead, as they say is Spain.
Zapatero is almost a clone of Mr. Bean. A known fact all over the Spanish speaking world.
(Will be back for comments, 'cause this election has meant some changes that are not so easy to see on a first glance)
I spent six weeks in Spain in 2006. Which is when I first noticed the resemblance. I'm glad the socialists are kind of back in. I thought the way the country handled the influx of african illegal immigrants was compassionate, especially compared to my own country's reaction to much much much smaller numbers of 'boat people'.
Spanish voters seem to hold principle quite highly. To increase the party's number of seats in the face the housing affordability crisis and rampant corruption at the local government level (two issues that I'm aware of - Spain isn't a major source of news in Australia. More's the pity) is an affirmation of kicking out Aznar's PP.
Even the 'remembering' of the Franco years has turned people off.
What's the big news about this election, IMHO?
1. The bipartisan tsunami.
Both major parties gathered more votes than 4 years ago.
The tsunami whipped specially the Nationalist (actually Localist) parties. Only CiU, the centrist Catalonian party, and BNG, the left-wing Galician party managed to keep their repressentatives, even with lower voting. PNV, the centrist Basque party lost one fourth of its votes, ERC, the left-wing Catalonian party lost two thirds (and went from 8 to 3 members of Parliament), the Canarian party lost half its votes, the left wing legal Basques lost half their votes and their seat; same with the party from Aragon.
2. UPyD
As part of the Anti-Localist sentiment, the party "Union, Progress and Democracy", a split from ruling PSOE, won a seat.
The party's message is simple: We are Spanish socialists, but are fed up with the so-called Nationalist parties "blackmail" PSOE accepts and are against the electoral law (which favors big national parties and small local ones, and punishes small national parties). Famous philosopher Fernando Savater openly supports this group.
3. The Red-Green collapse
For the third time in a row, IU (United Left) loses votes and seats. From 11% and 21 seats in 1996, the remnants of the old Communist Party and their Green allies are left with 3% and 2 measly seats. This means that the only survivor of old Eurocommunism is Italy's Democratic Party.
This also means that Zapatero's call for a vote "from the left" did work for him.
These are the changes of seats vis a vis 2004:
Andalucia: PSOE (-2); PP (+1)
Valencia: PP (+1) IU (-1)
Basque Country: PSOE (+2), PP (-1), PNV (-1), EA (-1)
Catalonia: PSOE (+5), ERC (-5), PP (+1), IU (-1)
Castille-La Mancha: PP (+1) PSOE (+1)
Galicia: PP (-1)
Canary Islands: PSOE (+1), CC (-1)
Aragón: PSOE (+1), CA (-1)
Castille-León: PP (-1)
Madrid: PP (+1), PSOE (-1), UPyD (+1), IU (-1)
Murcia: PP (+1)
A Spanish friend says the biggest news in this election is that PSOE gathered more votes than PNV in the Basque country.
He says it's a sign that Basques are beginning to get fed up with their Nationalist politicians.
fbaezer wrote:A Spanish friend says the biggest news in this election is that PSOE gathered more votes than PNV in the Basque country.
He says it's a sign that Basques are beginning to get fed up with their Nationalist politicians.
Hi F, is your friend Basque or Galician*? I only ask because I'm wondering if the native attitudes are changing or whether internal migration is changing the demographic make up of those states.
* or Catalonian?
fbaezer wrote:He's Andalusian.
But he is not a dog, is he?
Francis wrote:fbaezer wrote:He's Andalusian.
But he is not a dog, is he?
Actually that's what his Basque neighbor used to call him.
I like Basques but tengo un amor en La Habana y el otro en Andalucia...
If I can't Havana in Cuba I'd like to siesta in spain?
You can siesta and many others in Spain, Hinge..