Terry wrote:Hawkeye, how is "living life fully" the same thing as total surrender? If you have relinquished the right to self-determination, do you flip a coin each time a decision must be made, or what? Or do you just drift aimlessly through life, refusing to make any choices?
I suspect that many people who allegedly surrender their lives to God use unverifiable personal revelations of God's Will to avoid having to justify their actions to anyone else.
I am not saying they are the same, I am saying you can not live fully if you can not surrender. Think of it like riding the wave in surfing....riding and being fully part of life. If you try to defend yourself against the wave you get nowhere. If you focus on analysing the wave you are quickly overwhelmed because your brain can not keep up. Yes you keep thinking, yes you make choices, yes you try to make the best choices, but it is not you against the wave. It is you giving yourself up to the wave, allowing the wave to be the wave because that can't be changed, successful surfing happens when you learn how to be in harmony with the wave.
In no way does the successful surfer become not responsible for their choices, in no way do they lose the right to self determination, they are doing the opposite of drifting.
Fully living is becoming fully part of all of the life around you. when you insist on existing "here is me and there is other" you are always adversarial to life, always holding it at arms length.
Maybe you have experienced sexual surrender, where there is no more concern for "you and me' what you are doing and what i am doing. There is no more planning what to do next, no more fear or concern for what will happen next, no more concern for how you will remember the sex, for things like the "relationship" or explaining the sex to anyone even yourself. You are fully in the moment, feeling and thinking what you will, with no concern for anything but for experiencing what you are thinking and feeling.
Maybe you will get hurt or later have regrets, maybe it will be the best experience of your life, but during the time you have surrendered to your sexual partner you don't care about any of that.
