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How hard is it to retrieve deleted and trashed email?

 
 
TTH
 
Reply Fri 15 Feb, 2008 03:59 pm
First I need to apologize if this is the wrong forum. I didn't know whether to ask in internet or computers.

How hard is it for IT people to recover over 400 deleted & trashed emails? Like how many people and how many hours are involved?

I am asking because I know someone who works for a big company and that someone accidently deleted & trashed their emails. They use a PC and the emails are that important that they need to be recovered. According to an IT person, the whole email system for the company might have to be shut down. The company has it's own dedicated IT team if that matters.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Fri 15 Feb, 2008 04:03 pm
What does "trashed" mean in this context?
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TTH
 
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Reply Fri 15 Feb, 2008 04:25 pm
Trashed.... like delete and then empty trash.

They have a delete option which would transfer the email to the trash and then they would empty the trash.

They also have a delete and trash option which automatically by-passes the email sitting in the trash, so the email gets automatically emptied from the trash. I hope that makes sense.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Fri 15 Feb, 2008 04:36 pm
I don't know very much about this specific problem, but this has never stopped me before.

There are three places where the deleted email could be found.

1) The email server (the system administrators would have to find out about this).

2) Outlook database files on the local machine

3) The disk drive of the local machine.


Let's start with the last... files that are deleted are simply removed from a "table of contents" that is kept on the contents of the disk drive. To save time, the contents aren't erased until another file wants to use the disk space. Because of this, you can often resurrect files by simply looking at what is on "empty" parts of the disk.

This is a standard forensic technique. By the way, if you really want to erase data so no one can ever read it, you need to write new data on top of the old data. There are programs specifically to do this (and usually it overwrites the data several times to be sure).

I don't know much about the Outlook data files... But I remember hearing that deleted files are sometimes kept. Your system administrators would know more.

On the server side, a company can keep backups of email, but this would be a matter of policy. I wonder if the "shutting email down" has to do with restoring a backup...
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Fri 15 Feb, 2008 04:37 pm
This "company" your friend works for wouldn't be the White House, would it....
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TTH
 
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Reply Fri 15 Feb, 2008 05:07 pm
No Laughing

I forgot to mention this is a laptop computer (Sorry). I do know that these emails cannot be permanently erased or written over. The IT supervisor was told about it yesterday, so I was just curious how long it will take to recover them. I will post it as soon as they are recovered just to let anyone wondering know.

Thanks Very Happy
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TTH
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2008 11:49 am
This is what I found out about retrieving these ever so important emails. The email system the company uses has over 6,000 employees that use the program.

There will be 2 computer techs and a supervisor involved in this retrieval. They will have to shut the entire email system down in order to retrieve these emails. They also said it will take a couple of hours and has nothing to do with a backup of the system.
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2008 03:14 pm
Just an update on where they are with this retrieval. The system was shut down and then the emails were retrieved. That was 2 days ago. Of course it didn't go smooth.

The emails are in the backup restore file on this email program. They can be read and deleted, but nothing else. So, the IT people worked on the problem with the employee for over an hour on the phone trying to fix this, with the error messages that kept coming up when the employee tried to respond or move the email.

The IT people think they have the problem figured out, so they need to shut the entire system down again (for about 5 minutes). Then it will take them approx. 2 hours to work out the problem.
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