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Oz election thread #3 - Rudd's Labour

 
 
hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 17 Feb, 2009 12:58 am
@dadpad,
I sort of share your misgivings dad - I'd like us to have a uniform standard of health care across the country, but I worry a unibloc will set the standard low - at least now there's a chance one of the states and territories will get something right that the others can copy. That said think of the massive duplication of administration the current arrangement has.
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 17 Feb, 2009 01:12 am
@dadpad,
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Some talk of nationalisng health or parts of the health system. I have to say I'm not wholly in favour of decision making and policy setting from afar.


I understand what you're saying, dadpad. But on the other hand, as the federal government is responsible for most of the doling out of funds to the states for health care, it might make for more realistic health budgets for the states. The funding of public hospitals is a disgrace. And I'm sick & tired of "the blame game" between the federal government & the states. It just means that no one takes responsibility.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 21 Feb, 2009 05:56 am
http://images.theage.com.au/2009/02/20/390834/svSPOONER-420x0.jpg
Mired in the past:
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/mired-in-the-past-20090220-8dl5.html?page=-1

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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 21 Feb, 2009 06:10 am

http://images.theage.com.au/ftage/ffximage/2009/02/20/svCARTOON_FEB21_gallery__527x400.jpg
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 21 Feb, 2009 07:31 pm
Wow!!! Do you think this might wipe the smirk off his face? Surprised :

It's time to go, Hewson tells Costello
Posted 3 hours 18 minutes ago
Updated 2 hours 18 minutes ago


Former Liberal leader John Hewson has launched a scathing attack on former treasurer Peter Costello, saying he should quit politics for the sake of the party.

Dr Hewson's comments come after a turbulent week for the Liberals, which saw speculation about Mr Costello's future overshadow the appointment of Joe Hockey as the new Opposition treasury spokesman .....

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200705/r142340_492603.jpg

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......"After the damage that you have done, the best you can now do to help our chances is to leave," Dr Hewson wrote in Fairfax newspapers.

"If your few remaining mates won't tell you, I will. You've had a fair go. If you now won't give others a chance and pull your weight as a member of the team, you should move on.

"It is most unlikely that you will ever be drafted as leader of the Liberal Party and even less likely that you will ever be prime minister.

"You can't go on ignoring the facts. You have only ever had a minimal support base and that base has been further and terminally eroded by your disloyalty, antics and shenanigans of the last year or so.

Dr Hewson also doubted Mr Costello's competence as treasurer.

"I also doubt you have the skills, experience or self-confidence to have accepted the obvious job after losing the last election, namely shadow treasurer," he wrote.

"You'd be lost without Treasury. You may have delivered 11 budgets but ask yourself honestly how many of them were actually yours, rather than Treasury's.

"I am told Treasury is now drawing a sharp contrast between your little interest and involvement and that of Wayne Swan."....


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/02/22/2497902.htm
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 21 Feb, 2009 08:03 pm
It's starting to look like the Libs are about to embark on the utterly vicious , free-for-all bun fight they have to have, before they can actually accept they're now in opposition & finally move on.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 21 Feb, 2009 08:36 pm
Meanwhile, the Labor government ....:

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2009/02/22/220209cartoon_copy_gallery__533x382.jpg
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 22 Feb, 2009 07:19 pm
... & speaking of Labor, here's a copy of the SMH article I posted on the anti-whaling thread.
WTF?????!
I cannot believe this. What is Labor up to here?
Not bloody happy, Kevin!Evil or Very Mad :


Quote:
Sea Shepherd evidence 'could be sent to Japan'
Andrew Darby
February 22, 2009/Sydney Morning Herald


Australian Federal Police have raided anti-whaling flagship the Steve Irwin, seizing records and videos that could help Japan to prosecute the activist Sea Shepherd group.

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An armed squad seized 157 of Discovery Channel's raw videos, and navigational records from the ship in Hobart. The videos show the Sea Shepherd's clashes with Japanese whalers and may be given to the Japanese Government. A federal agent said yesterday's raid resulted from a formal referral from Japanese authorities and that police were undertaking preliminary inquiries into this summer's Southern Ocean confrontation.

Australian National University law professor Don Rothwell said international legal obligations meant evidence of alleged maritime offences could be forwarded to Japan... <cont>


http://www.smh.com.au/environment/whale-watch/sea-shepherd-evidence-could-be-sent-to-japan-20090221-8e61.html
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 22 Feb, 2009 08:02 pm
Today's Petty.:

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2009/02/22/OP_gallery__586x400.jpg
hingehead
 
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Reply Sun 22 Feb, 2009 09:17 pm
@msolga,
Insiders certainly noted that the Libs are more faction driven than labor ever was. There's interstate rivalries, conservative v reformer rivalries, but mostly there's just 'I don't like that bloke/chick' rivalries.

Joe Hockey as treasure? Gimme a break.
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 23 Feb, 2009 12:38 am
@hingehead,
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Joe Hockey as treasure? Gimme a break.


It's all about (desperate) PR at this point for the Libs at this point, isn't it, hinge?

He'll do fine.
hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 23 Feb, 2009 04:22 am
@msolga,
I saw Hockey on Insiders. He tells lies. He was a better minister than Andrews in the employment portfolio, and he's certainly more personable, but he's a bit of knob and a tad self important (not Robinson Crusoe there).

Your PR comment is very apt Olgs. Note that Chris Pyne (another media slut) also got a promotion - clearly Malcolm is going for people who do the five second grab well and and can handle themselves in the media rough and tumble (which is why Bishop had to go). I wonder if Brendon will get a recall?
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 23 Feb, 2009 03:48 pm
@hingehead,
Surprised Oh so he's a fibber, too! And I always thought he was "honest Joe"! I'm shocked! Wink

Yep, I agree, hinge. It's all going to be smooth operators & hard (PR) sell from the Libs for quite a while yet. They've got a long, long way to go before effectively handling this strange, new business of opposition effectively.
Interesting that there's been so little public defence of Costello from within the Lib ranks, following Hewson's astonishing serve on the weekend. Nothing from Costello, either. Hmmmm .... I guess his game playing might be curtailed for a bit, anyway?

Interesting too, this stuff about the Libs, Mafia connections & bribes, that's getting a lot of media attention at the moment. Be interesting to see if Amanda of Italy will have any more to say on the matter.
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 23 Feb, 2009 03:53 pm
@msolga,
I guess, given the disarray of the Libs, an early election might not be out of the question? Wink
hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 23 Feb, 2009 04:17 pm
@msolga,
Hmmm - hope not, it might seem a good idea tactically but I think the ALP will win the next election whenever it's held, then Costello will try to step in. I think most libs would concede privately that this govt will get a second term, if only because historically the country turns to labor in recession and liberal in recovery.

Qld is going to the polls early, also hoping to capitalise on a disorganised opposition and a mood of restraint. I'm sure Kev will be watching closely.
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 23 Feb, 2009 05:00 pm
@hingehead,
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... then Costello will try to step in


You really think so, hinge?
I would have thought he'd well & truly done his dash, with just about everyone ...
hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 23 Feb, 2009 05:51 pm
@msolga,
His press officer released something recently about him being quiet in 2008 to 'concentrate on his electorate', but he is now ready to step back into the fray in 2009. Of course, that was before John Hewson's blast.
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 23 Feb, 2009 06:46 pm
@hingehead,
I suspect that if anything half-decent presented itself in the private sector, Costello would be gone in a flash! The problem might be that he's not exactly in hot demand? Wink
hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 23 Feb, 2009 09:15 pm
@msolga,
Exactly - I can't remember who said it, maybe Hewson, 'No-one in the private sector has offered him anything or he'd be gone'. Maybe big biz agrees with Keating - Costello only looked good because of the economic conditions in which he found himself. I do think it's odd that the word 'lazy' has been batted around a bit.
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 24 Feb, 2009 12:29 am
@hingehead,
Yep. Couldn't agree more, hinge.

Which brings to mind one of those classic Paul Keating quotes about Costello: "All tip & no iceberg".

I love that! Laughing
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