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Oz election thread #3 - Rudd's Labour

 
 
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2008 01:42 am
vikorr wrote:
One thing that'd be good would be to give East Timor a bigger cut of the Gas monies we are taking out of their territory. It would go some little way towards helping them aleviate poverty (and while the money many such deals would normally fizzle away due to corruption - given Ramos-Horta's and Gusmao's history, one would hope this wouldn't happen too much in E.T.)


Absolutely, vikorr!

I have felt utterly ashamed of the (previous) Australian government's greed & insensitivity (over the gas money) & to the desperate plight of the East Timorese.

Let's see if a new Oz government can be fairer & more generous.
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 11 Feb, 2008 03:53 am
Rudd pledges more troops for East Timor
Posted 4 hours 12 minutes ago
Updated 3 hours 15 minutes ago/ABC NEWS


http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200802/r222868_879314.jpg
Police and UN soldiers keep watch at a roadblock in Dili. (Reuters TV)

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd says he is shocked at the attack on East Timor President Jose Ramos Horta and has announced more Australian troops will be sent to the country.

Mr Ramos Horta was shot in the stomach after fugitive rebel leader Alfredo Reinado launched a pre-dawn raid on his home in the capital Dili, military and government sources say.

The attack is thought to be have been a botched coup attempt.

East Timor Prime Minister Xanana Gusmao has confirmed that fugitive rebel leader Alfredo Reinado was shot and killed during the attack on Mr Ramos Horta.

The gunmen also targeted the home of Mr Gusmao, according to United Nations adviser on East Timor James Dunn. The UN confirmed Mr Gusmao escaped the attack.

Mr Rudd has reinstated Australia's close ties with East Timor and announced he will visit East Timor later this week.

"What we had apparently are coordinated attacks aimed at assassinating the democratically-elected leadership of East Timor [who are] a close friend and partner of Australia," he said.

"For there to be a coordinated attempt to assassinate the democratically-elected leadership of a close neighbour and friend of Australia's, is a deep and disturbing development.

"This Government, the Australian Government, will stand resolutely with the democratically-elected government of East Timor at this time of crisis."

Mr Rudd also announced the Federal Cabinet National Security Committee has agreed to the East Timorese Government's request for more help and will send extra troops and up to 70 more police to East Timor.

Federal Opposition Leader Brendan Nelson has offered bipartisan support for the extra troop deployment to East Timor and says he backs Mr Rudd's plan to visit the country.

"I'd certainly be very happy to either go to East Timor myself with him, or have [Opposition foreign affairs spokesman] Andrew Robb on our behalf visit East Timor," he said.

"This has always been a question of bipartisan support across the political divide in Australia and if democratic principles mean anything to us as Australians, we will stand by these people." ...<cont>

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/02/11/2159782.htm
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 12 Feb, 2008 02:19 am
February 12, 2008/ABC NEWS

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's apology motion has been tabled in Parliament:

Today we honour the Indigenous peoples of this land, the oldest continuing cultures in human history.

We reflect on their past mistreatment.

We reflect in particular on the mistreatment of those who were Stolen Generations - this blemished chapter in our nation's history.

The time has now come for the nation to turn a new page in Australia's history by righting the wrongs of the past and so moving forward with confidence to the future.

We apologise for the laws and policies of successive Parliaments and governments that have inflicted profound grief, suffering and loss on these our fellow Australians.

We apologise especially for the removal of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children from their families, their communities and their country.

For the pain, suffering and hurt of these Stolen Generations, their descendants and for their families left behind, we say sorry.

To the mothers and fathers, the brothers and sisters, for the breaking up of families and communities, we say sorry.

And for the indignity and degradation thus inflicted on a proud people and a proud culture, we say sorry.

We the Parliament of Australia respectfully request that this apology be received in the spirit in which it is offered as part of the healing of the nation.

For the future we take heart; resolving that this new page in the history of our great continent can now be written.

We today take this first step by acknowledging the past and laying claim to a future that embraces all Australian.

A future where this Parliament resolves that the injustices of the past must never, never happen again.

A future where we harness the determination of all Australians, Indigenous and non-Indigenous, to close the gap that lies between us in life expectancy, educational achievement and economic opportunity.

A future where we embrace the possibility of new solutions to enduring problems where old approaches have changed.

A future based on mutual respect, mutual resolve and mutual responsibility.

A future where all Australians, whatever their origins, are truly equal partners, with equal opportunities and with an equal stake in shaping the next chapter in the history of this great country.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/apology/text.htm
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 12 Feb, 2008 07:30 pm
Cheers, tears as Rudd says 'sorry'
Posted 2 hours 8 minutes ago
Updated 44 minutes ago/ABC News


http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200802/r223476_882674.jpg
Jude Kelly, from Bunbury in Western Australia, whose mother was a member of the Stolen Generations, is comforted during Kevin Rudd's apology. (ABC News: Penny McLintock)

There have been emotional scenes in Federal Parliament, where Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has delivered his long-awaited apology to Australia's Stolen Generations.

Mr Rudd turned and applauded members of the Stolen Generations in the public gallery after delivering an emotional address to the House of Representatives in which he spoke of the "profound grief, suffering and loss" experienced by Australia's Indigenous people.

The House rose as one to applaud Mr Rudd's speech.


Parliament also applauded the speech given by Opposition Leader Brendan Nelson but the hundreds of people who were gathered in the Great Hall and outside on the lawns of Parliament House gave him a hostile reception.

Many in the Great Hall began by booing and jeering, then turning their backs on the big screens carrying Dr Nelson's address. Some walked out in protest during Dr Nelson's speech.

In Federation Square about three-quarters of the crowd turned their back on Dr Nelson.


Mr Rudd opened proceedings by offering an unconditional apology to the Stolen Generations, talking about tens of thousands of children separated from their familes and repeating the word "sorry" on three occasions in the formal apology.

He called on the Opposition to join in a 'war cabinet' to deal with Aboriginal housing issues and matters of constitutaional change and spoke of moving into the future with "arms extended" rather than with "fists still raised".

Dr Nelson used his speech to warn against judging actions of the past by the standards of the present and said it was correct that no compensation was being offered, because he said no money could compensate for the hurt inflicted on those removed from their familiies.


'We say sorry'

Addressing a packed House of Representatives this morning, Mr Rudd said the Parliament apologised for laws and policies which had "inflicted profound grief, suffering and loss on these our fellow Australians."

"For the pain, suffering and hurt of these Stolen Generations, their descendants and for their families left behind, we say sorry," he said.

"To the mothers and the fathers, the brothers and the sisters, for the breaking up of families and communities, we say sorry.

"And for the indignity and degradation thus inflicted on a proud people and a proud culture, we say sorry."


As Mr Rudd was speaking hundreds of people had gathered outside Parliament House to watch events unfold on big screens.

"We the Parliament of Australia respectfully request that this apology be received in the spirit in which it is offered as part of the healing of the nation," Mr Rudd continued.

"For the future we take heart; resolving that this new page in the history of our great continent can now be written.

"We today take this first step by acknowledging the past and laying claim to a future that embraces all Australians."

"... A future where all Australians, whatever their origins, are truly equal partners, with equal opportunities and with an equal stake in shaping the next chapter in the history of this great country, Australia."

Mr Rudd says the apology is being made to "remove a great stain on the soul of the nation.

"The time has come, well and truly come, for all peoples of our great country ... all Australians, those who are Indigenous and those who are not, to come together, to reconcile, and build a future for our great nation."


'Sheer brutality'

Mr Rudd told the chamber the moving story of one member of the Stolen Generations, taken from her family in the Northern Territory.

He spoke of the "sheer brutality" of separating a mother from her children, which he described as "a deep assault on our senses and our most elemental humanity".

In an attack on the government of John Howard, he said it had treated the Stolen Generations with a "stony, stubborn and deafening silence for more than a decade".

"[There was] a view that we should look for any pretext to push this great wrong to one side," he said.

"To leave it languishing with the ... academics and the 'cultural warriors', for who the Stolen Generations are little more than an interesting sociological phenomenon.

"But as of today the time for denial is at last come to an end."


Fair go

Mr Rudd says reconciliation is a reflection of a core tenet of Australian society: the concept of a fair go for all.

"For our nation, the course of action is clear ... and that is to deal now with what has become one of the darkest chapters in our nation's history."

"In doing so, we are also wrestling with our own souls.

"As Prime Minister of Australia, I am sorry. On behalf of the Government of Australia, I am sorry. On behalf of the Parliament of Australia, I am sorry. And I offer you this apology without qualification."


Mr Rudd said he hoped today's apology would open a new era in Australian history.

"We have had sufficient audacity and faith to advance part way to that future, with arms extended rather than with fists still clenched," he said.

"Let us allow this day of national reconciliation to become one of those rare moments in which we might just be able to transform the way in which the nation thinks about itself.

"For the nation to bring the first two centuries of our settled history to a close ... and embrace with awe these ancient cultures which we are blessed, truly blessed to have among us."

Mr Rudd's speech was greeted with prolonged applause from both sides of the House and from those gathered outside.


Good intentions

Responding to the motion, Dr Nelson warned against judging actions of the past by the standards of the present day.

"Each one of us has a duty to understand what has been done in our names," he said.

"Our responsibilty, every one of us, is to understand what happened here. Our generation does not own these actions. Nor should it feel guilt for what was done, in many cases, with the best intentions."

Speaking of the early settlers who founded the modern nation of Australia, and the Indigenous people they encountered, he said: "We cannot from the comfort of the 21st century begin to imagine what they overcame - Indigenous and non-Indigenous - to give us what we have and make us what we are."

And he referred to Opposition unease about the use of the word "Stolen".

"Many Australians are hurt by accusations of theft, in relation to their good intentions," he said.

"None of us should bring a sense of moral superiority to this debate."


Like Mr Rudd, Dr Nelson recounted the story of a member of the Stolen Generations.

Speaking of a child taken from her father, he said she did not want people to say "sorry" to her. But she wanted people to understand the enormous pain the separation caused her.

And he said there should be no monetary compensation because no compensation fund could erase that pain.

Dr Nelson pledged his "unconditional support" for Mr Rudd's 'war cabinet' proposal.

"This is far, far more important than anything that would normally divide us," he said.

And he finished his address by saying: "As one people, we are sorry" before shaking hands with Mr Rudd across the dispatch box.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/02/13/2161309.htm
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littlek
 
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Reply Tue 12 Feb, 2008 07:34 pm
Powerful and about damned time.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 12 Feb, 2008 07:40 pm
littlek wrote:
Powerful and about damned time.


Has the US government done that for the indigenous peoples of your country? Or did I dream that?

The Canajuns did it ages ago, I believe?
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 12 Feb, 2008 07:47 pm
Yes, about damned time, k. Absolutely.

It was an incredibly emotional parliamentary address. People in the gallery cried, clapped & cheered. Thousands listening & watching outside did the same. I watched it at home on television (like heaps of other people) & cried (like heaps of others, judging from ABC radio feedback.) Some people turned their backs to the huge screens relaying the event outside parliament & at various other places like Federation Square in Melbourne, in response to Brendan Nelson's (opposition leader) speech. An incredibly, incredibly emotional morning. We've finally started on something that should have happened long ago.
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 12 Feb, 2008 07:55 pm
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200802/r223434_882465.jpg
The chamber, including the public galleries, stand and join in applause (ABC TV)
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 12 Feb, 2008 08:15 pm
Tears in Melbourne as PM delivers apology
Matthew Burgess, Reko Rennie
February 13, 2008 - 11:35AM/the AGE

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2008/02/13/nelson_narrowweb__300x450,2.jpg
Members of the crowd at Federation Square turn their backs as Opposition leader Brendan Nelson speaks.
Photo: Andrew de la Rue


There were tears and jeers as thousands of Melburnians gathered to witness Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's historic apology to Australia's stolen generations.

About 3000 people, including high school students and toddlers, gathered at the city's meeting place to witness the historic event.

At 9am, all eyes were turned towards an outdoor screen as a silent and respectful crowd watched the live broadcast.

Tears were shed throughout Mr Rudd's speech, which was greeted with a standing ovation.

But the event was not without its controversy, as the crowd turned its back on the screen during Opposition Leader Brendan Nelson's speech, amid chants of ''get him off".

Still, it could not take away from the emotion of the day.


Co-founders of the band Blue King Brown, Natalie Pa'apa'a and Carlo Santone described it as a crucial step.

"It's a sense of kind of relief," Pa'apa'a told The Age.

"Obviously everyone here was very happy to hear the words finally."

Pa'apa'a said Mr Nelson's speech took away from the point of the historic day.

Santone said he felt empowered after Mr Rudd's speech.

"We all want reconciliation and we stand in support."

Alex Michaela of Brunswick was overcome with emotion.

"If I want to continue to call myself an Australian I have to find something to take pride in," Ms Michaela said.

Mark Byrne, of northern New South Wales, watched the broadcast with his wife and daughter and was still soaking up the atmosphere after most of the crowd dispersed.

"It is obviously a very emotional day for a lot of people," he said. "It is not before time."

Mobile phone messages sent by members of the crowd appeared on Federation Square's big screen.

A text message from Rocky read: "Our ancestors can finally rest in peace."

A text message from Coll said: "Sorry it's taken so long to say sorry."

An anonymous message read: "Let's enjoy this day and think about those who have suffered from Australia's shameful past."


A concert featuring musicians Archie Roach and Ruby Hunter will be held at Federation Square from midday.

Other artists set to perform include Stray Blacks and Jarrah.

Standing ovation for PM

North of the city, many were overcome with emotion as around 500 people, black and white, filled the Aboriginal Advancement League hall in the northern suburb of Thornbury.



Elders, uncles, aunts and children took their seats among the growing crowd.

The event's MC, "Uncle" Alf Bamblett, told the crowd it was a "glorious day".

The crowd replied with a roar and applause.

'Take these memories with you'


"Make sure you take these memories with you (forever)," Mr Bamblett said.

"Auntie" Joy Wandin Murphy, a Wurundjeri elder, gave a traditional welcome to the crowd.

"Know that we share your pain," she said, reminding everyone that there was still a long way to go.

"We hope the Government takes the next step in adequately resourcing those persons still looking for their family."

At the end of Mr Rudd's speech, the crowd cheered and gave a standing ovation.

A group of women were crying and hugged each other during the address.

Many people appeared overwhelmed by the occasion, but impressed with Mr Rudd's words.

Mr Bamblett turned off the sound when Opposition Leader Brendan Nelson spoke about Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders living a life of ''extistential aimlessness''.

The crowd roared with disbelief at Dr Nelson's comments, in which he described the ''seemingly intractable and disgraceful circumstances in which many indigenous Australians find themselves today''.

Following the speech, Mr Bamblett said there were counsellors on hand for any people who were distressed or overcome with emotion.


Community elder Herb Patten said today's events brought back feelings similar those he experienced after the 1967 referendum giving indigenous Australians the right to vote.

"(Then) there was hope and aspiration (after) what happened there. Today I get that same optimistic feeling."

Mr Patten said there must be compensation paid to members of the stolen generations.

"Even the present way it's been addressed to us as 'Sorry Day', I'm still a bit optimistic on the governments of the future to carry out the mandate for what happened to the people in this country and what deservedly belongs to them."

At Federation Square, Yorta Yorta woman Deborah Cheetham, from Newport, said she could already feel the healing process beginning before Mr Rudd began speaking.

'I thought I would never see this'

"I have been waiting for this day all my life as a member of the stolen generation," Ms Cheetham said.

"There were times when I thought I would never see this day."

She said she was driving yesterday when she heard the words of the apology, and had to pull over to the side of the road because she was too overcome with emotion.

"As a first step it's worded in a very powerful ... way.


"There will always be endless analysis of this apology and it will be critiqued by all and sundry.

"I can already feel the healing process has begun."

'Once in a lifetime'


Anna Schwartz, from Carlton, said it was a once-in-a-lifetime event.

"I hope that we can begin to live in a more cohesive society and that disparities of opportunity, living standards and stature can be redressed."


http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/sorry-tears-and-jeers/2008/02/13/1202760345721.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 12 Feb, 2008 08:38 pm
Martin Place crowd weep for the stolen generations

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/02/13/tears_wideweb__470x313,0.jpg
Ivan Clarke, one of the stolen generations, is comforted by a friend after watching the apology by Prime Minister Kevin Rudd on a large screen in Redfern.
Photo: Jon Reid


February 13, 2008 - 11:58AM/SMH

As the rain fell across Sydney city this morning, a packed crowd in Martin Place stood silently, many weeping, as they listened to Prime Minister Kevin Rudd say sorry for the stolen generations.

For Graham Mooney, 58, the rain was an apt sign of cleansing as this unfinished business was finally completed.

"For days it has been raining, it's been raining right across Australia," Mr Mooney, who is from the Yuiberera Tribe in Mackay, Queensland, said.

"Rain is cleansing, like fire, like smoke is used in ceremonies.

"It's like washing the Earth Mother."


Barely able to hide his smile, Mr Mooney, a freelance lecturer in Aboriginal history, said now the country could move forward from the mistakes of the past.

"I've seen people die, taken to the grave without having dealt with this unfinished business," he said.

"Now we can go on to remaking ourselves again."

Mr Mooney was one of hundreds of Sydneysiders from all walks of life, who watched the celebrations in Martin Place. Many held Australian, Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander flags.

Men and women in business suits, schoolchildren and other passers-by cried, smiled, clapped and stood in respect as they listened to Mr Rudd apologise.

The apology was broadcast on a big screen in Martin Place with thousands of people cheering and applauding.


Mr Mooney said that members of his tribe had been taken from their families by government officials.

"We were told that, every time a white man comes, to run into the bush and hide," he said.

"We ran away many, many times.

"My parents were always scared we would not return from school."


Aboriginal man Clarence Slockee, from the NSW North Coast, introduced the broadcast, saying it was the start of a new era.

"In 1788 it was estimated that there were over 1 million Aboriginal people," he told the gathering.

"They started counting us in the census in 1967. Today we number just over 500,000.


"We certainly need to account for what happened to the other 500,000. We also need to account for what has happened in the past, but we certainly must move together into the future.

"Today is the first step in what we hope will be true reconciliation." ...<cont>

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/martin-place-crowd-weep-for-the-stolen-generations/2008/02/13/1202760357550.html
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hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 12 Feb, 2008 09:38 pm
I cried too.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 13 Feb, 2008 01:12 am
hingehead wrote:
I cried too.



Got so soggy listening to it on the way to work, I had to pull over.



PLEASE LET IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!!!


If even one aboriginal heart begins to heal, it's worth it.




I am crying now.






We had some great work discussions today....I'll post a bit later about them.



I bet you all did, too?????????
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hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 13 Feb, 2008 01:14 am
I note that every living prime minister attended, except John Howard. The libs really haven't handled this too well at all. And Rudd was most gracious in including Nelson in the special guests intro.

Mrs Hinge tells me that generally the indigenous (non-stolen) are not touchy or into public displays of physical affection. To hug someone, particularly a white Australian is a measure of how much they welcome you, because not only is it at odds with their mores, but they are also acknowledging that this is a way to express affection/welcome in our culture, so they are trying to communicate emotion in a way meaningful to us. Like rubbing noses with an eskimo, or kissing the cheeks of a frenchman.

The special visitor trip had a lot of hugging....
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 13 Feb, 2008 01:16 am
msolga wrote:
vikorr wrote:
One thing that'd be good would be to give East Timor a bigger cut of the Gas monies we are taking out of their territory. It would go some little way towards helping them aleviate poverty (and while the money many such deals would normally fizzle away due to corruption - given Ramos-Horta's and Gusmao's history, one would hope this wouldn't happen too much in E.T.)


Absolutely, vikorr!

I have felt utterly ashamed of the (previous) Australian government's greed & insensitivity (over the gas money) & to the desperate plight of the East Timorese.

Let's see if a new Oz government can be fairer & more generous.



Oh please, please, please.......
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Wilso
 
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Reply Wed 13 Feb, 2008 04:36 am
How different is our country from only 3 months ago?
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 13 Feb, 2008 05:52 am
Wilso wrote:
How different is our country from only 3 months ago?


Well I don't know exactly, Wilso.

All I know is that that statement from our prime minister expressed what a lot of of have believed for a long, long time. And that many people responded very strongly to his words.

I sincerely hope those words will be followed by action.
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 13 Feb, 2008 06:07 am
dlowan wrote:
msolga wrote:
vikorr wrote:
One thing that'd be good would be to give East Timor a bigger cut of the Gas monies we are taking out of their territory. It would go some little way towards helping them aleviate poverty (and while the money many such deals would normally fizzle away due to corruption - given Ramos-Horta's and Gusmao's history, one would hope this wouldn't happen too much in E.T.)


Absolutely, vikorr!

I have felt utterly ashamed of the (previous) Australian government's greed & insensitivity (over the gas money) & to the desperate plight of the East Timorese.

Let's see if a new Oz government can be fairer & more generous.



Oh please, please, please.......


It would be wonderful, wouldn't it, if we could actually be far bigger than Howard & co over this?

Come on, Kevin, give the East Timorese a fair go!
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 13 Feb, 2008 06:47 am
msolga wrote:
dlowan wrote:
msolga wrote:
vikorr wrote:
One thing that'd be good would be to give East Timor a bigger cut of the Gas monies we are taking out of their territory. It would go some little way towards helping them aleviate poverty (and while the money many such deals would normally fizzle away due to corruption - given Ramos-Horta's and Gusmao's history, one would hope this wouldn't happen too much in E.T.)


Absolutely, vikorr!

I have felt utterly ashamed of the (previous) Australian government's greed & insensitivity (over the gas money) & to the desperate plight of the East Timorese.

Let's see if a new Oz government can be fairer & more generous.



Oh please, please, please.......


It would be wonderful, wouldn't it, if we could actually be far bigger than Howard & co over this?

Come on, Kevin, give the East Timorese a fair go!



They've been pretty busy...but has anyone heard any indicators re this?





Given we're upping the troop numbers again, and have Ramos Horta sick as **** in the country, it would be a damn good time to think about it.



I suppose reversing these goddam contracts is a complex business. Sigh.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 13 Feb, 2008 03:49 pm
Wilso wrote:
How different is our country from only 3 months ago?


Yep, I know what you mean. And I understand what Olga means too. I guess it just goes to show the power of an elected politician as a symbol - because for all the will in the world of the Australian people, John Howard still made me think we were a mean and small minded nation.

I feel much better about our nation now (will have to call the NZ immigration people and let them know the bad news).
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 13 Feb, 2008 05:35 pm
hingehead wrote:
Wilso wrote:
How different is our country from only 3 months ago?


Yep, I know what you mean. And I understand what Olga means too. I guess it just goes to show the power of an elected politician as a symbol - because for all the will in the world of the Australian people, John Howard still made me think we were a mean and small minded nation.

I feel much better about our nation now (will have to call the NZ immigration people and let them know the bad news).


So eat your heart out, Helen! :wink:

Sorry, Wilso, I thought you were asking if the situation of aboriginal people had changed over the 3 months of the Rudd government ....

Well, of course Labor is a huge improvement on Howard & co!

Apart from anything else, it is wonderful not to constantly grit grit one's teeth through endless Howard double speak! Yay! Plain English! How refreshing!

You know (apart from feeling quite pissed of with him for his completely inappropriate comments in parliament yesterday), I feel almost sorry for poor old Brendan, trying to walk some sort of middle path between the Lib conservatives (who still haven't realized that Howard's way is well & truly kaput with the electorate) & the Lib moderates/progressives, who want to move the party into the future. Liberal unity simply isn't achievable until the Tuckeys & Minchins, etc, vanish. And in the process of trying to achieve the unachievable poor ol Brendan doing himself a lot of harm. Any bets on how long he'll last? I reckon he'll be gone by the end of this year & will be replaced by you know who.
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