Canada considers unveiling Muslim voters

On a similar but expanded note, if and only if you are a practicing Sikh who wears a turban, you are then exempt from the motorcycle helmet law but only if you precisely meet the following:


http://www.britishcolumbia.com/information/details.asp?id=6

Whoa Nelly! Are the RCMP gong to stop me and measure the surface area of my turban? Are the RCMP gong to stop me and try to assess if I have unshorn hair - whatever the hell that precisely means? Are the RCMP gong to stop me to try and assess if I habitually wear one? Are the RCMP gong to stop me to try and disprove my religiosity / culture? What if you believe yourself to be a Sikh, but do not agree with Guru Nanak's teachings and lifestyles when it comes to "adopting the role of the soldier" and you in all sincerity inform the RCMP thusly?

How ******* bizarre is that?

The absurdity of all this comes from that fact that said religion/culture must be one that is a Canadian officially recognized religion/culture, which naturally enough begs the question: By what rational reasonable logic does the Canadian government decide what religion/culture it will official recognize and by what rational reasonable logic does the Canadian government decide what religion/culture will not officially recognize?

I claim that there is no rational reasonable logic that can be identified as to why the Canadian government should officially recognize some religion/cultures but not others. I further claim that such assessments are in fact arbitrary and therefore inherently unfair.

I further state that this unfair arbitrariness as imposed the Canadian government's official recognition of only some religion/cultures is exacerbated by the falsehood of official Canadian Multiculturalism.

I assert that Official Canadian Multiculturalism cannot be rationally reasonably logical unless or until it is in actuality applied with equality to all religion/cultures without bias or judgment.

It's the same concerns as to when Canada officially recognizes only certain religion/cultures for the purposes of special tax treatments or other economic / legal / social advantage under such idealized but inherently unfair pretenses as Canadian Multiculturalism.

As another example witness Canadian officially recognized religion's tax exempt status versus Canadian unrecognized religion's potentially taxable status.

Why can't the women that wear burqas just get some sort of absentee ballot mailed to their home in advance of an election, where they then get it mailed back by election time? There surely is a way to make sure that there wasn't duplicate voting for each absentee ballot.

Why not accomodate them with a simple win-win solution, rather than make an issue out of the concern?

I thought Canada was hospitable to immigrants?

What Canadians have you polled to come to belief that Canadians themselves want more immigrants?

I was referring to the country/government, not the citizens.

It's certainly true that Canada has a massive open-arms immigration policy and some people benefit greatly in a financial sense from this, however that does not indicate the feelings of Canadians per se.

The presumption that the Canadian government reflects the people's wishes is one that I find rather speculative on your part.

In the context of your post, you can't use the word Canada without meaning that to include the people of Canada and not simply Canadian government policy.

I never attempted to state that the Canadian people's wishes were being considered. I stated Canada; I meant the government.

There are so few people, by comparison to the U.S., in Canada, if I want to take a survey, I'll ask the moose in Canada.

Nope, in the context of your post, you can't use the word Canada without meaning that to include the people of Canada. See for yourself as I quote youYou're confused, the number of people in Canada is a wholly irrelevant argument, however in point of fact the more temperate / comfortable / moderate living zones in Canada are much less than the US and range mostly along the Canadian / US border.

In fact, the inhabitants of our three biggest cities Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver can drive to the border in less than two hours. I suggest you review a Canadian population density map and learn the reasons the distribution is so uneven and likely to remain so.

http://concise.britannica.com/ebc/art-60145/Population-density-of-Canada

Sure I can use the word Canada as I choose to. I can speak American English as poorly as I choose. Do youse guys unnerstan me, eh?

Is there anything good on TV?

chumley wrote :



last time i checked canada still has a multi-party system and the citizens elect the government .
now i may not agree with every decision our governments make , but i always have the choice to voice my opinion and vote for a different party/government . it still seems to work .
certainly our own city would be much the poorer would it not for all the immigrants that have come from many parts of the world .
looking at our businesses , our university , our hospitals , they have been able to attract some of the best in their respective professions from many different countries .
we do have a fair number of muslims living in our community ; some of the women wear headscarves , some dress not differently than any other women - haven't seen a single one in a burqa or similar face-cover .
it's a tempest in a teapot .
just my opinion , of course .
hbg

At my poll for the recent Provincial election, we were asked for 2 pieces of identification. Are things so different in T.O.?

we had the voter notification card - but i don't know that is an "identification" at all - and a driver's license or similar document .
a/t the instructions one can also bring a "witness" and no documentation is required , i believe.
hbg

So-called representative democracy, sponsored by soft money, swayed by the presumption of myopic social mores, and delineated by the artifice of idealizations as espoused in specious political platforms, is not democracy of the people for the people by the people, irritative of the number of political parties and their claims.

Political idealization/rhetoric minimized referenda as the decision making process of the day (via the Internet perhaps), plus being able to easily vote in or out a much wider array of public figures (including police chiefs and numerous other presently political appointees etc) in addition to strict term limits would be a step closer to democracy.

Your claim that somehow a "multi-party system and the citizens elect the government" must mean that Canada has democracy is nonsense. At best Canada has a narrow and very limited form of representative democracy as discussed.

Anyway, the traditional Saudi women I know who cover up will gladly uncover their faces in front of women, so just make sure there is a female at the voters' booths. Case solved.

I was thinking about this as I drove back from the beach earlier in the day.

Why exactly are we trying to make it more difficult for people to vote here? I thought that we were supposed to be finding ways to make it easier for people to vote - to encourage them to show up and participate.

Silliness.

Not sure about where you're living, Chumly - but I'm voting for people to represent me, not anyone else.

you'll make chumley's blood-pressure rise ! have you no shame :wink: ?
hbg

If as you say you are voling for people to represent you, and as one would logically conclude "anyone else" are indeed people, then it cannot be that you are not voting for "anyone else".