Author Who Wants To Kill God Makes Children's Movie

Interesting assumptions wolf.

First: Since the movie has not been shown yet - how can it be old news?

Second: Have you seen a 'sneak-preview' of the film - or are you speculating as to the actual content?

And are you suggesting that the writer from Snopes is a "misinterpreting young Earth Creationist"? How would you know this to be true?

real life wrote:

Wilso wrote:

real life wrote:

Wilso wrote:

Chai wrote:

From SNOPES?


Hey, I got an idea.

If you don't want your child to see this movie, don't take him/her.

Another person trying to use logic to fight delusion. That's too reasonable for theists.

An atheist wants people to think about killing God...........

Yeah, that's logical......................

A theist expects people to take a fantasy movie logically.

You're a bit mixed up, Wilso.

You, not I, are the one who suggested that the moviemaker was using logic to oppose theism.

I was talking about the theists who protested instead of just avoiding the movie you half wit!!!

Another person trying to use logic to fight delusion.

baddog1 wrote:

Interesting assumptions wolf.

First: Since the movie has not been shown yet - how can it be old news?

I'm talking about the news that there's a Golden Compass movie, news of which appeared as early as December 2004.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/4097715.stm

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Second: Have you seen a 'sneak-preview' of the film - or are you speculating as to the actual content?

No need to speculate. I'm telling you what has been reported in various different media articles ranging from Empire magazine to the Washington Post.

I refer you to this article:

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2190765,00.html

And an interview with the Director

That's not to say that the content won't change, but seeing as I haven't heard any news regarding any change and no news has been reported, it is safe to say that the content will remain as I have described.

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And are you suggesting that the writer from Snopes is a "misinterpreting young Earth Creationist"? How would you know this to be true?

I was referring to RL. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

Why can't i see page 2?

I hope i didn't miss anything amusing--which is about the only reason that i come here these days.

From Snopes:

" The Golden Compass, a fantasy film starring Nicole Kidman that is scheduled to be released into theaters on 7 December 2007, has been drawing fire from concerned Christians. The film is based on Northern Lights (released in the U.S. as The Golden Compass), the first offering in Phillip Pullman's His Dark Materials trilogy of children's books, a series that follows the adventures of a streetwise girl who travels
through multiple worlds populated by witches, armor-plated bears, and sinister ecclesiastical assassins to defeat the oppressive forces of a senile God.

Books of the trilogy have sold more than 15 million copies around the world, with Northern Lights winning the Carnegie Medal for Children's Literature in 2005 and in 2007 being awarded the 'Carnegie of Carnegies' for the best children's book of the past 70 years. The Amber Spyglass, the final book of the series, won The Whitbread Prize in 2001, making it the first children's book to do so.

The series' author, Phillip Pullman, is an avowed atheist who has averred that "I don't profess any religion; I don't think it's possible that there is a God; I have the greatest difficulty in understanding what is meant by the words 'spiritual' or 'spirituality.'" Critics of Pullman's books point to the strong anti-religion and anti-God themes they incorporate, and although literary works are subject to a variety of interpretations, Pullman left little doubt about his intentions when he said in a 2003 interview that "My books are about killing God." (Conservative British columnist Peter Hitchens labeled Pullman "The Most Dangerous Author in Britain" and described him as the writer "the atheists would have been praying for, if atheists prayed.")..."

The Bible comes in children's versions as well, and it's no less a form of indoctrination than Pullman's books are.

Why do you object to an atheistic children's story if you don't object equally to a theistic children's story?

rosborne979 wrote:

The Bible comes in children's versions as well, and it's no less a form of indoctrination than Pullman's books are.

Why do you object to an atheistic children's story if you don't object equally to a theistic children's story?

Such as?

baddog1 wrote:

rosborne979 wrote:

The Bible comes in children's versions as well, and it's no less a form of indoctrination than Pullman's books are.

Why do you object to an atheistic children's story if you don't object equally to a theistic children's story?

Such as?

The Bible (did you read the first sentence?)

rosborne979 wrote:

baddog1 wrote:

rosborne979 wrote:

The Bible comes in children's versions as well, and it's no less a form of indoctrination than Pullman's books are.

Why do you object to an atheistic children's story if you don't object equally to a theistic children's story?

Such as?

The Bible (did you read the first sentence?)

Yes. I thought you had other 'children's books' in mind.

baddog1 wrote:

rosborne979 wrote:

baddog1 wrote:

rosborne979 wrote:

The Bible comes in children's versions as well, and it's no less a form of indoctrination than Pullman's books are.

Why do you object to an atheistic children's story if you don't object equally to a theistic children's story?

Such as?

The Bible (did you read the first sentence?)

Yes. I thought you had other 'children's books' in mind.

No. My point was that the bible is used to indoctrinate kids all the time. It's specifically repackaged for them (Children's Bible).

I really don't see why Pullman's books should be of concern to anyone, if "Children's Bibles" aren't of equal concern.

Additionally, as Pullman admits to his desire to 'kill God' - I was alarmed that he would be in a position to influence children either directly or subliminally through books or movie(s).

baddog1 wrote:

Additionally, as Pullman admits to his desire to 'kill God' - I was alarmed that he would be in a position to influence children either directly or subliminally through books or movie(s).

I understand that your personal beliefs would prefer that God not be killed, but do you see that there really is no difference of degree between what the Bible is used for, and what Pullman's books might be used for?

Personally, I find it odious that christian dogma, including eternal damnation and torture in hellfire, are presented to young children to make them believe.

You correctly used lower case 'c' to represent nominal christianity.

The doctrines you referred to are not Christian.

neologist wrote:

You correctly used lower case 'c' to represent nominal christianity.

The doctrines you referred to are not Christian.

Really? I'm not sure what the difference between the two things are.

rosborne979 wrote:

neologist wrote:

You correctly used lower case 'c' to represent nominal christianity.

The doctrines you referred to are not Christian.

Really? I'm not sure what the difference between the two things are.

I sort of got into it here

Your previous post seemed to imply that there is some form of christianity that does not use the threat of eternal damnation and hellfire in its doctrine.

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Your previous post seemed to imply that there is some form of christianity that does not use the threat of eternal damnation and hellfire in its doctrine.

jehovah's witnesses. they believe that the wicked are going to be obliterated,