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Do Christians thank the Lord before eating a Twinkie?

 
 
Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 04:10 pm
I am still perplexed as to why the question was asked in the first place.
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Chai
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 04:25 pm
as am I
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tinygiraffe
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 04:41 pm
i believe it was brought up to illustrate that religious people are silly.

to a point, i agree. it's silly to thank god for nourishing food then eat lots of junk. but i eat junk food. i do avoid bht, msg, and artificial sweetners, and i don't eat pork and try to avoid genetically modified food as often as possible. other than that i'm not above greasy, fatty foods, candy, etc.

i never eat "lite" anything. i don't eat twinkies, not because i wouldn't eat anything like them, but because i don't like the chemical processes that hostess uses. also, i can bake but i usually prefer things like ice cream and chocolate to things like cake.

religious people that take themselves too seriously *are* silly. the real debate comes from what's "too seriously." thinking that everyone that doesn't share your belief will be tortured forever or destroyed? that's silly. thinking that we should have some kind of values toward each other, or try to commune with the divine? i'm okay with that part.

you could say it was a stupid thread. depending on the spirit it was posted in, maybe it was. i wouldn't call it pointless.
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Chai
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 05:03 pm
tinygiraffe wrote:
i believe it was brought up to illustrate that religious people are silly.




Well, that's a sweeping overstatement.

Why don't we just merge this with the thread that "Black people are stupid"?



Or, we can say that some people, regardless of their religion or spiritual beliefs, appear silly when they loudly give thanks to a diety for the food they're about to put in their mouths.

Even then, you can qualify that with the fact it wouldn't be silly, or as silly, if it was done on a holiday of thankfulness, or in a gathering of like minded people.

Some black people are stupid...so are some Christians, Jews, Muslims, whites, etc.
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tinygiraffe
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 05:15 pm
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Well, that's a sweeping overstatement.


yes, it is. but when two people can't extrapolate the intention behind a question, and they wonder aloud about it, and i *think* i know why the question was asked, i'm often inclined to help out. that doesn't mean i agree completely with the intentions i perceive in the question. i think strong atheism is very nearly as silly as religion is, sometimes i can't tell which is sillier. we might be silly for even participating in the discussion. people are silly. that's even more sweeping than the statement you're taking issue with.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 05:54 pm
tinygiraffe wrote:
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Well, that's a sweeping overstatement.


yes, it is. but when two people can't extrapolate the intention behind a question, and they wonder aloud about it, and i *think* i know why the question was asked, i'm often inclined to help out. that doesn't mean i agree completely with the intentions i perceive in the question. i think strong atheism is very nearly as silly as religion is, sometimes i can't tell which is sillier. we might be silly for even participating in the discussion. people are silly. that's even more sweeping than the statement you're taking issue with.


Actually, I find it amusing that you find it odd that two people can't understand the spirit in which a question was asked and, indeed, what the intention was that you feel qualified to know the answer. I guess those who can't understand it are "silly" and you are the one to know what the writer was talking about.

I would put out that the writer is the only one who truly knows what he/she is talking about. Your assumptions are no better qualified than the rest of us. Especially when the writer did not mention atheists as you just have. Not that atheists are not thankful for things too.

We Christians (not speaking for Chai as I do not know her thoughts on this) are not necessarily any sillier than anybody else. The fact that there is thankfulness does not equate to silliness. We are even thankful for you.
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tinygiraffe
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 06:08 pm
Intrepid wrote:
Actually, I find it amusing that you find it odd that two people can't understand the spirit in which a question was asked...


where did i even imply that? i simply stated that you couldn't, not that i found it odd. i may have been wrong, but i thought *you said* you couldn't, just a couple posts above.

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...and, indeed, what the intention was that you feel qualified to know the answer.


it's a discussion, intrepid, i thought everyone was qualified to guess- i guessed. i implied that i wasn't attempting to read his mind by using the word "extrapolate," but i figured it was obvious i didn't read his mind- to everyone.

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I guess those who can't understand it are "silly" and you are the one to know what the writer was talking about.


that's your invention. i think nothing of the sort. i certainly never said that.

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I would put out that the writer is the only one who truly knows what he/she is talking about.


to be sure. but then we'd be in a poor state if we were never able to make reasonable guesses at intention. examples: the declaration of independence, the constitution, the bible. many religious and non-religious try to extrapolate jesus's intentions from the bible.

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Your assumptions are no better qualified than the rest of us.


and i never said they were.

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Especially when the writer did not mention atheists as you just have.


i don't see what that has to do with my ability to understand someone's post.

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We Christians (not speaking for Chai as I do not know her thoughts on this) are not necessarily any sillier than anybody else.


not necessarily, that's true. in fact, when i was told it was a "sweeping overstatement," the first thing i said was "yes, it is." so you're obviously explaining something to me that i just agreed with.

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The fact that there is thankfulness does not equate to silliness.


i agree. it should be obvious that i agree from everything i said already, or even several random parts of it, but then i know how important it is to you that you make no assumptions- regardless of how many assumptions of yours about me that i just put to rest. it's okay if you misinterpret me, but not if i interpret hippo, that's the basic message of your post, right?

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We are even thankful for you.


and your charity overwhelms me, really!
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Chai
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 06:28 pm
No Intrepid, I wouldn't call myself a Christian, at least in the way I personally understand the definition.

I would consider myself a Theist.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 08:00 pm
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i agree. it should be obvious that i agree from everything i said already, or even several random parts of it, but then i know how important it is to you that you make no assumptions- regardless of how many assumptions of yours about me that i just put to rest. it's okay if you misinterpret me, but not if i interpret hippo, that's the basic message of your post, right?


No.
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