Re: How Can We Make A2K More "Inviting" to People?
OK, wait..
So there is this:
Phoenix32890 wrote:I think that some members tend to personalize what other people say, and go on a personal attack when someone is in great disagreement with them. I say, attack the idea, not abuse the person.
At this point in time, I think that we need to set out a big "WELCOME" mat at A2K. We want people to know that we are open minded, generous of spirit, and accepting of new people with new ideas. [..]
My point is, IMO, if we want this forum to flourish, and not languish, we need to put on our best smiles and trot out the lemonade and cookies.
And then there is this:
Phoenix32890 wrote:Frank was someone who tended to have large groups of people gathering around him. Although many people did not agree with him, and he did tend to get a bit nasty at times, for better or for worse, he put fire into the site. And that fire translated into a lot of people responding, even if only to argue with him.
Chumly, I think that you are right about A2K losing some of its "spice". Over the years, we have a number of people, who have come and gone, who have raised the hackles of members. Even so, those folks, to a great extent, brought the rest of us together, if only to disagree. That irritation gave life to the site, and it resulted in many more postings.
So, what we need to do again is to not engage in personal attacks - and to raise the hackles of members. To set out a big "WELCOME" mat at A2K, put on our best smiles and trot out the lemonade and cookies - and be so irritating that people will post just to argue with us. We should be open minded, generous of spirit, and accepting of new people with new ideas - like, eh, Frank Apisa
I dunno. The yearning for grand old pasts and their excellent characters is obviously sincere. The longing for more welcoming friendliness and at the same time some mix-em-up fire and brimstone is genuine too. Human emotions are complicated like that. But the whole contradictoriness and unfocusedness of this call for the good old times to come back kind of confirms to me what I started saying before. That this is a lot more about the nature of human feelings than about any specific current state of the forum.
Like you wrote, you've gone through a lot of things, good times and bad, while here on this forum, and here on this forum itself. Experiences accumulate, and as they collect, layer upon layer, in our house of memories, they take on a rich glow of glory, beauty and intensity.
In reality, of course, those memories merely represent the condensation of several dozens highpoints and lowpoints, while the many slow days, lacklustre discussions and petty to-and-fros that occurred then, too, have long since dissipated.
Reading this thread, it's clear that everyone has their own things they miss about their A2K experience of the past. But there is apparently no specific, concrete thing that's gone missing - I mean, you cant simultaneously deplore how less gentle the forum has become, and how less fiery it has become. Instead, it sounds more like it's something intangible - something that was really good - and is just not there anymore. Or rather: something you used to
feel, but dont feel anymore.
But in reality, you dont need to go further than the Politics thread to find the same heat as there was before. The characters have changed, but the game remains the same: Okie is no different than Foxfyre was, Halfback has taken up home halfway between where O'Bill and Lash were, and Cyclo is as active now as I used to be, and posts in much the same way. On the Relationships forum, advice is as personal as it used to be; the silly games roll on as ever.
What it could be is that things that once seemed exciting and new, now seem worn-out and dull; that discussions that seemed insightful at first read, make your eyes glaze over the nth time they roll back around. I remember the first time I was on a discussion mailinglist. The first time I was on an internet forum. It was so cool! But if I were able to participate in the very same threads now, they might just bore me. None of that says anything specific about what
the site is like today: it all says a lot more about us, and where we stand, what "phase" of net use we are in, and how we remember things.