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Exploring who is in the right or wrong (or who did neither)

 
 
Busma
 
Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 12:48 pm
Answer these questions the best of your knowledge and tell how you came to any answer:

1) Fat guy eating a whole cake all at once: Is he in the right or wrong for doing that? Is he in the right or wrong for being fat?

2) Gay guy looking at lesbian porn: Is he in the right or wrong for looking at lesbian porn since he is gay? Is he in the right or wrong for being gay?

3) Straight adult guy looking at teen porn so he can jack off: Is he in the right or wrong for looking at teen porn being an adult? Is he in the right or wrong for jacking off to it?

4) Some kind of person determines for everyone what is right and what is wrong: Is this person in the right or wrong for doing just that?

5) Is it the person who can be right or wrong for what they do? Or is it what the person does that can be right or wrong?

6) I'm telling you it is wrong for you to respond to this thread: Am I in the right or wrong for telling you that? Do you feel you're in the right or wrong for responding after being told that?

7) I dont care about you so f^ck you: Am I in the right or wrong for saying something truely honest as that to you?
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Ragman
 
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Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 04:03 pm
wow...you thought all this up by yourself? Why?
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vikorr
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2007 12:19 am
Shouldn't you define what you mean by 'right' and 'wrong' before someone attempts to answer those questions?
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2007 09:01 am
1) It depends.

2) It depends.

3) It depends.

4) It depends.

5) It depends.

6) It depends.

7) It depends.
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VSPrasad
 
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Reply Thu 4 Oct, 2007 05:07 am
The branch of philosophy that defines what is good for the individual and for society and establishes the nature of obligations, or duties, that people owe themselves and one another.

The word ethics is derived from the Greek word ethos, which means "character," and from the Latin word mores, which means "customs." In modern society, it defines how individuals, business professionals, and corporations choose to interact with one another.

Aristotle was one of the first great philosophers to study the subject. To him, ethics was more than a moral, religious, or legal concept. He believed that the most important element in ethical behavior is knowledge that actions are accomplished for the betterment of the common good. He asked whether actions performed by an individual or group are good both for that individual or a group and for society. To determine what is ethically good for the individual and for society, Aristotle said, it is necessary to possess three virtues of practical wisdom: temperance, courage, and justice.

Making ethical decisions in business is often difficult because business ethics is not simply an extension of an individual's personal ethics or a society's standards of right and wrong. Just being a good person with high ethical standards may not be enough to handle the tough choices that frequently arise in the workplace. Persons with limited business experience are often called upon to answer troublesome questions about complex issues, such as Can a professional breach client confidentiality? When can a professional permit harm to a client for the sake of the welfare of another person or the public? Can a professional deceive a client for the client's own good?

Further, what appears to be right in youth period may appear as
wrong to some persons during old age. Eating meat is one example.
Another concept which blurs ethics is moral luck. A drunk driver may safely reach home without injuring anyone, or he might accidentally kill a child who runs out into the street while he is driving home. The action of driving while drunk is usually seen as equally wrong in each case, but its dependence on chance affects the degree to which the driver is held responsible.

Consequences of personal choices may impact on other people and any associated responsibilities may extend into a wider society. They are major factors in life, as they determine one's relationships with oneself and with others. One's choices often affect one's ethics in a much more grand scheme. Negative choices often create a "numbness" due to familiarity with the negativity (A creates B which perpetuates A, with A being the negative choice and B being the "numbness" due to it), furthering one's negativity. This is known as a downward spiral. In the reverse of this, known as an upward spiral, the same thing occurs but it furthers one's positive aspects; these aspects, whether negative or positive, affect one's life and therefore one's ethics.

"No artist has ethical sympathies. An ethical sympathy in an artist is an unpardonable mannerism of style." - Oscar Wilde

"Ethics is in origin the art of recommending to others the sacrifices required for cooperation with oneself." - Bertrand Russell

"Every aspect of Western culture needs a new code of ethics -- a rational ethics -- as a precondition of rebirth." - Ayn Rand
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bellsybop
 
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Reply Thu 1 Nov, 2007 12:25 am
((scratching head))..

Well, what is right and what is wrong are just boundaries that were set in our heads from childhood. Most of what is considered right or wrong by people in society are just people who disagree with your decision or point of view on things. People construct their own models of the world and judge others when it is different from their own perception.
My feelings would be to do what serves you best as an individual and forget what others view your decision as being.
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tinygiraffe
 
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Reply Thu 1 Nov, 2007 02:32 am
i agree with joe,
i agree with joe,
i agree with joe,
i agree with joe,
i agree with joe,
i agree with joe,
i agree with joe,

and you did this one already, didn't you? why not just find your own thread about this and update it?
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aidan
 
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Reply Thu 1 Nov, 2007 04:19 am
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Answer these questions the best of your knowledge and tell how you came to any answer:


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1) Fat guy eating a whole cake all at once
Is he in the right or wrong for doing that?

No, he's not wrong- especially not if he's really hungry, although he might regret doing that.
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Is he in the right or wrong for being fat?

Wrong? No-but he's apparently making choices that are impacting himself and society negatively. I was in Wal-Mart the other day and I remarked to the person I was with that I see so many relatively young (some less than middle-age) people in America who are riding around in those motorized scooters who seem to be doing that because they are no longer able to be mobile because they are grossly obese. Of course I can't be sure that's their only problem, but I don't see any sign of stroke or muscle atrophy, so I assume that's what it is. It's incredible to me that people would give up mobility for food- but hey- that's almost what this society ENCOURAGES- and that's from infancy on.

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Gay guy looking at lesbian porn: Is he in the right or wrong for looking at lesbian porn since he is gay?

Who the hell cares what he looks at?
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Is he in the right or wrong for being gay?
NO.

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Straight adult guy looking at teen porn so he can jack off: Is he in the right or wrong for looking at teen porn being an adult?

Why is there teen porn? Isn't that against the law?
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Is he in the right or wrong for jacking off to it?

I guess it's how he meets his own particular and peculiar needs. Wrong as far as society goes- but right for him in some strange way. I think he'd be headed in a wrong and dangerous direction if this is true for him - I'd advise him to get help.

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4) Some kind of person determines for everyone what is right and what is wrong: Is this person in the right or wrong for doing just that?

YES! This kind of person bugs me more than all of these other kind of people COMBINED!
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5) Is it the person who can be right or wrong for what they do? Or is it what the person does that can be right or wrong?

I think people need to take responsibility for their actions- so yes- I think people can be wrong (or right) for doing what they do.

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6) I'm telling you it is wrong for you to respond to this thread: Am I in the right or wrong for telling you that?

I'd be curious as to why you might tell me that- but I acknowledge that you can tell me whatever you feel like telling me- you just also have to acknowledge that the flip side of that is I can do whatever I feel like doing.
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Do you feel you're in the right or wrong for responding after being told that?

I feel neutral about the situation.

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I dont care about you so f^ck you: Am I in the right or wrong for saying something truely honest as that to you?

How can that be honest? You don't even know who I am. Maybe you know me in real life and you do care about me.
I think it's degrading to our language though to use terms life f^ck more than occasionally- when they're really warranted by situation or emotion. Wrong? Maybe not- an unfortunate choice on a chronic and everyday basis? YES!

I'm glad you reposted this. I hadn't seen it before. Even if others felt it was wrong of you to do so, I found it interesting- and I'm always looking for things that are interesting - that's so much more right for me than boring and same old, same old- so thanks!

I was just talking about this subject with a student at lunch the other day. He's only 17- but he's really bright and interesting. We were talking about how some people- though they might be really similar in every other way to each other- seem drawn to the negative (wrong) while others seem drawn to the positive (right).
We were talking about how people (from the outside) might look really different from each other if you were only to base things on their final decisions which resulted in actions. But really - if you could see inside the decision making process- before the action- you might find that people are far more similar than you thought - it's only their final action that makes them appear so different.
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