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According to poll, Europeans back Clinton

 
 
Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2007 07:20 am
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Europeans back Clinton, says poll


Ewen MacAskill in Washington
Thursday August 30, 2007
The Guardian


Europeans overwhelmingly support Hillary Clinton's attempt to become the next US president, according to a poll published yesterday.
The poll, conducted in Britain, France, Germany and Italy, put Barack Obama, her main rival, in poor second place.

Ms Clinton's high ratings in Europe may reflect greater name recognition because of her time as first lady. The campaign is at an early stage and many of the candidates are relatively unknown outside the US.

Republican candidates trailed Ms Clinton, possibly reflecting antipathy in Europe towards the Bush administration over the Iraq war. Rudy Giuliani, the former mayor of New York, emerged as the most popular, again possibly because of greater name recognition. His Italian background helped boost his rating in Italy to 17.5%.
The poll was conducted by Vancouver-based polling organisation Angus Reid Global security. More than 1,000 people were polled in each country.

In the UK, 29.8% of those polled supported Ms Clinton, compared with 7.1% for Mr Obama and 9.5% for Mr Giuliani. Ms Clinton enjoyed the biggest support in Germany, where she recorded 45.5%, followed by 43.7% in France and 35.2% in Italy. In Britain, France and Germany, more men expressed a preference for her victory than women.

Other candidates, such as John Edwards, John McCain and Mitt Romney, achieved single-figure ratings.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2007 07:20 am
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fishin
 
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Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2007 07:21 am
Luckily, Europeans don't get to vote. Razz
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2007 07:23 am
No, but they can answer to polls and have opinions.

I'm sure, similar occurs in the US .... now and then, at least. :wink:
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2007 07:24 am
Re: According to poll, Europeans back Clinton
Ewan MacAskill wrote:
Ms Clinton's high ratings in Europe may reflect greater name recognition because of her time as first lady.


Ya think?

Still interesting to see the article, but I have to say that I can't see that meaning much at this point. Not that the people polled here vote for US president, but it would in fact be important to me to hire a leader who is well-regarded elsewhere in the world.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2007 07:25 am
"Hire"? That's interesting. I meant "elect."
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2007 07:37 am
Re: According to poll, Europeans back Clinton
sozobe wrote:
Ewan MacAskill wrote:
Ms Clinton's high ratings in Europe may reflect greater name recognition because of her time as first lady.


Ya think?


For a (great) deal, at least.

Besides that, female candidates are always a bit more supported in Europe (specially here in Germany).
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2007 07:45 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
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Interesting - and unexpected! - to see that the Italians appear to be the best informed about the US Presidential race so far - not just do they have the lowest number of "dont knows", they also have some of the highest scores for some of the lesser known candidates.

Equally surprising that the least informed peoples appear to be the Brits and the French.

Perhaps to do with the scope of news reporting? British newspapers give ridiculously sparse space to foreign news.. Then again, French newspapers (Le Figaro and Le Monde at least) give more space to foreign news than any other papers I know..
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2007 07:48 am
perhaps Europeans are not bogged down by a bunch of emotional baggage and learned responses and simply objectively look at the one thing that should be the ONLY thing that matters..... who is the most qualified and who will bring the most qualified with her to the office of the presidency?

I realize that isn't sexy and therefore not interesting to most Americans but Europeans aren't concerned with that in this case.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2007 07:51 am
C'mon, Bear, Hillary was first lady for 8 years. She traveled. She was in the news. Of course they'd know who she is beyond the other candidates. (Quick, name the candidates of an upcoming European election... heck, name an upcoming European election... Now, what's Tony Blair's wife's name?)
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Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2007 07:53 am
Actually I think we Europeans are just smarter than Americans.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2007 07:53 am
I'm surprised by Obama's rather low number: I'd thought it would be higher, since British, French and German media reported widely about him.

(Besides that, I'm not sure, nimh, if your observation about "international coverage" is correct. For instance today, Le Figaro has two pages while the Guardian has five for international news [that's not 'Europe'!], ads are about the very same per page. And I think this to be normality.)
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2007 08:02 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
I'm surprised by Obama's rather low number: I'd thought it would be higher, since British, French and German media reported widely about him.

(Besides that, I'm not sure, nimh, if your observation about "international coverage" is correct. For instance today, Le Figaro has two pages while the Guardian has five for international news [that's not 'Europe'!], ads are about the very same per page. And I think this to be normality.)

Eh. The Guardian and The Independent are the two smallest national newspapers in the UK. Check out your average day's Times and Telegraph and it's reams of crime news overwhelming the cursory foreign news reportage. And even The Guardian often has less foreign news coverage than most Dutch or German quality newspapers, and almost all of it focused only on stuff the Brits are directly involved in (Iraq etc).

On Le Figaro, I admit Ive only bought it a dozen times or so - but I was greatly impressed by Le Monde when I bought it for a month or so ahead of the French elections. Once past the front page, they consistently had foreign news before the national news - even, IIRC, the very days before and after the elections! - and lots of it too! Lots beyond the obvious subjects as well, on African issues and the like.

But yeah, most people rely on TV or regional newspapers, so all of this is probably neither here nor there.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2007 08:07 am
sozobe wrote:
C'mon, Bear, Hillary was first lady for 8 years. She traveled. She was in the news. Of course they'd know who she is beyond the other candidates. (Quick, name the candidates of an upcoming European election... heck, name an upcoming European election... Now, what's Tony Blair's wife's name?)



you know who else has fabulous recognition in europe? bush. how popular is he in europe?
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2007 08:09 am
Thomas wrote:
Actually I think we Europeans are just smarter than Americans.


no. americans are just lazy and purposefully ignorant.
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