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Mon 27 Aug, 2007 05:22 am
my friends started of boxing, but lately everyone seems to be going without the gloves. i find it entertaining, and i fight sometimes but just for the experience, im not really a fighter so i figured it would be a good idea to practice a little. but i prefer gloves LOL.
but then one of my other friends is all like "damn man didnt you know fight clubs are like a felony?"
i didnt really think much of it until then and i was just lke oh ****, is it really?
does having gloves make a difference in legality?
Is it legal if you both are consenting?
i would think it would be just the same as practicing martial arts or something, but laws dont usually follow logic so im tryin to make sure.
I suppose, since you do not specify a jurisdiction, that you are presuming that everybody is in the USA.
In that country, Federal law requires a professional boxing regulatory agency to oversee all matches.
Each state has a Boxing Commission which issues licenses and provides regulations for conducting amateur and professional matches.
bare knuckle fighting is definitely illegal.
LOL, then disregard this post. and i have no affiliations with boxing and/or bare knuckle fighting. this was hypothetical.
thats sort of wierd, you would think we would be able to do what we want with our own bodies. damn its like a fuckin nanny state up in hurr.
one more question , what about sparring? is that considered a "match"?
nevermind, i give up on caring about laws.
Seriously, who cares? Unless you guys are that stupid to be doing it at the park. But from the sound of it...
But if they're all skinny 100lb wiggers nobody's getting hurt by those punches anyway.
its mostly marines..
im the only 100 pound wigger there
oh and i was asking because we box in the backyard, and its a chain link fence but i have always been boxing and never thought it might be illegal.
then its like "felony" and its like oh.. oops.
by the way,where do i go to find out whats legal and illegal?
is there an official state by state website somewhere?
This site might help:
http://boxing.nv.gov/regs.htm
I started knowing nothing....then I Goggled...voila!
Re: Is fighting illegal if it is consensual?
OGIONIK wrote:my friends started of boxing, but lately everyone seems to be going without the gloves. i find it entertaining, and i fight sometimes but just for the experience, im not really a fighter so i figured it would be a good idea to practice a little. but i prefer gloves LOL.
but then one of my other friends is all like "damn man didnt you know fight clubs are like a felony?"
i didnt really think much of it until then and i was just lke oh ****, is it really?
does having gloves make a difference in legality?
Is it legal if you both are consenting?
i would think it would be just the same as practicing martial arts or something, but laws dont usually follow logic so im tryin to make sure.
It doesn't really have much to do with whether or not the fighters are wearing gloves.
Fighting for sport (which is what boxing, with or without gloves, is) is regulated so you can't hold a contest without a proper license. The illegality comes from fighting without a license - not fighting itself.
are these matches, and is there money/betting involved?
Check with a local attorney. In Wisconsin, last I heard, one of the requirements for the State to charge battery is "without consent". Unless there is a show, promotion, gambling etc; I wouldn't think it's illegal for two guys to spar at all. If you are doing it for sport... like training for a UFC match or something... I doubt the state has any legitimate interest... unless there is a special statute created to cover it. Of course; if alcohol is involved or other factors that would lead the police to believe you weren't just sparring; you could still get hosed.
The main thing I would worry about would be an accidental death, which is also known as involuntary manslaughter {probably in the recklessness category}. This is one of the reasons fights have to be sanctioned, insurance to cover injurys/death and no legal repercussions if so.
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Involuntary manslaughter, sometimes called criminally negligent homicide in the United States, Gross negligence manslaughter in the UK or culpable homicide in Scotland, occurs where there is no intention to kill or cause serious injury but death is due to recklessness or criminal negligence.
Criminal negligence
Negligence consists of conduct by an individual which is not reasonable ?- that is, the individual did not act with the care and caution of a reasonable person in similar circumstances. This "reasonable person" is fictitious, of course, but reflects the standard of conduct which society wishes to impose. Violation of this standard may lead to civil liability for the consequences of the negligent behavior.
Negligence rises to the level of criminal negligence where the conduct reaches a higher degree of carelessness or inattention, perhaps to the point of indifference.
Recklessness
Recklessness or willful blindness is defined as a wanton disregard for the known dangers of a particular situation. An example of this would be a defendant throwing a brick off a bridge into vehicular traffic below. There exists no intent to kill, consequently a resulting death may not be considered murder. However, the conduct is probably reckless, sometimes used interchangeably with criminally negligent, which may subject the principal to prosecution for involuntary manslaughter: the individual was aware of the risk of injury to others and willfully disregarded it.
In many jurisdictions, such as in California, if the unintentional conduct amounts to such gross negligence as to amount to a willful or depraved indifference to human life, the mens rea may be considered to constitute malice. In such a case, the charged offense may be murder, often characterized as second degree murder.
In some jurisdictions, such as Victoria, British Columbia, recklessness is sufficient mens rea to justify a conviction for murder.
I'm not 100% sure but you could probably be charged with crimes against the state. Disorderly conduct, possibly assault, disturbing the peace etc... mostly order maintainance crimes. The conesenual part should only play into a civil perspective as in no crime was committed against another person, however because the state says its illegal, the crimes would be committed against the state.
Take this situation:
A teenager in a suburb of Rhode Island is leaving with his family for the weekend. He leaves a friend a key to his house. The friend brings people over to the house, using the key to gain acess and the police come and charge him and the others with breaking and entering. The parents and owners of the house did not want to charge the teenagers but the kids were tried for crimes committed against the state.