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Wonderland/Wadd

 
 
Reply Thu 9 Sep, 2004 07:55 pm
I recently saw Wonderland with Val Kilmer, and while I found it interesting, I didn't really find it all that compelling. It seemed like a music video to me, with more violence. I haven't seen the documentary Wadd yet. Both had close ratings on IMDB, 6.5 and 6.7, not terribly strong. I'm wondering if anyone has seen both movies and has an opinion on which is better, in terms of a film.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2004 09:04 am
6.5 and 6.7 I guess would interpolate to a two-and-a-half star movie. In other words, better than average. What do "Wonderland" and "Wadd" have in common as far as comparing the two?
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2004 09:06 am
I saw "Wonderland" solely because I read the article which it was based on in Rolling Stone magazine.

Hell of an article -- movie was so-so.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2004 09:23 am
If you see this magazine around any old bookstores....

http://www.gonzo.org/wsmith/articles/rs25cov.jpg

That's the one with the article. There's some other good stuff there as well.

The story about Wonderland is entitled The Devil and John Holmes and the author is Mike Sager.

He also wrote the book Scary Monsters and Super Freaks: Stories of Sex, Drugs, Rock 'n' Roll and Murder.

The same story is included in that book.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2004 10:06 am
Lightwizard wrote:
6.5 and 6.7 I guess would interpolate to a two-and-a-half star movie. In other words, better than average. What do "Wonderland" and "Wadd" have in common as far as comparing the two?


Nothing beyond the fact that the former was a fictionalized account of the role of John Holmes in the Wonderland murders, and the latter was an actual documentary of the man's life. Like I said, I haven't seen 'Wadd', but thought that even though the films themselves are quite different, a comparison regarding persepctive might be interesting.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2004 10:17 am
As different from "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil" in the film as opposed to the TV documentary, I suppose. Now I remember the film but avoided it due to lackluster reviews. I'm not sure I'm all that interested in the documentary either. That sordid world and a murder in Hollywood was also explored by "The Fluffer," only this time it is gay porno and almost entirely fictional (the writer of the screenplay has said it was based on some real events).
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2004 10:34 am
One thing that is nice about digital cable is that I can see all these movies for way less money then if I went to the theatre. Laughing If I had seen 'Wonderland' in a theatre, I would have felt ripped off. Scary Monsters and Super Freaks.....nice Bowie reference....I haven't read that one.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2004 10:54 am
Yep -- I'm enjoying my VOOM satellite. Their movie channels are great if a bit repetitive. They screened a pristine new 35MM print in hi-def of the original "The Manchurian Candidate" at the same time of the theatrical release of the new version. That's very cognitive programming! They have a World Cinema channel (today is "Z" and "Danton," one of Gerard Depardieu's four star classic French films about Georges Danton and his clashes with Robespierre). I can also record onto my DMR and burn and DVD. There's a loss of resolution but the B & W "Manchurian" will scarcely look different.
On their DivineHD," their all gay Channel is Robert De Niro in "Flawless." VOOM is owned by "Rainbow, Inc." You don't suppose....
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2004 10:58 am
Oh, I do suppose....are your channels unlimited with VOOM? With our cable, we are restricted to I think 10 choices, but we can change them any time.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2004 11:01 am
I have a 12" black and white with rabbit ears.

I get two channels.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2004 11:07 am
Unlimited. HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, Starz, Encore, TMC, et al. They also have 35 channels of hi-def including their own 20 channels and over the air local channels (if one is close enough to their transmitter).

Oh, gus, you're making me tear up. Very Happy

Especially since TV's are cheaper than computers.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2004 11:23 am
We get too much rain and snow for sattelite, although many people try. Some even buy into illegal units from America, which our government has been cracking down on...the airwaves apparently are guarded....
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2004 11:57 am
Aw, heck -- I did keep the on-the-air cable (about $ll.00 a month) channels in case the satellite is weather effected. No El Nino right now but who knows. There are snow and rain weather proofed dishes but haven't seen one or shopped for it. VOOM, of course, installs their dish with a piggy-backed off-the-air hi-def antenna. The technology of the local channels is still in it's infancy so the signals are not always reliable. Curiously KTLA channel 5 is the most reliable while KABC is the least reliable.

I also purchase DVD's and rent them as there are five rental stores five minutes from my house (I know that seems over-saturated!). Target has the best prices on new releases for the first week.
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