IFeelFree wrote:Joe Nation wrote:Anybody want to discuss whether or not the followers of one god are exactly the same as any other and that's it's inevitable that at some point in time they will try to wipe us all out rather than face the reality that there is no god to follow.
Yeah, right, lets change the subject rather than deal with the unpleasant realization that some in our midst are being mean and rude. Furthermore, lets take any opportunity to lump all theists in with murderous fanatics so that we can propagate an angry, paranoid view of anyone who actually attempts to take seriously all that religious crap.
Pardon me, partner, but THAT is
the subject of this thread,
not whether someone got their feelings hurt or somebody won't play nicely with others.
As for fanatics, which ones? Ours or theirs? Gen. Boykin, who famously believed the war against Islamists would be won because he knew that "my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol." ?
Or should we be listening more closely to James Dobsen who said concerning Democratic Senator Pat Leahy that he wasn't sure if Leahy hated God, but he was certain that he "hated God's people." ? (That is the same Sen. Leahy who our esteemed Vice-President Cheney told to go '**** himself." That kind of rudeness, oh my, on the same day that the Senate passed the "Defense of Decency Act" by a vote of 99 to one." Apparently mean things can be said nearly anybody anywhere in the defense of Family Values.
And, I think Jack has given us a perfect example of the kind of backdown in the face of criticism which personifies the American believer. He talked about how he thought, after years of having almost all of Mosaic Law written into our legal system, (yipes) now Christianity and our whole way of life was under attack, churches being closed, no prayers before football games (oh, the horror).
That's the kind of thinking that leads the voters in Kansas to elect people who don't know much about running a government but who do stand firm on Evolution and Gay Marriage. (I would say our current administration in Washington suffers from a nationwide push from the cultural (and cultish ) Right wing of the Republican party. Just look at the devastation these dolts have brought upon the Department of Justice!
I shudder to think who they have brought into the Department of Homeland Security. Let's hope it's not some of
our fanatics who believe that the Apocalypse IS now and that a flaming chaotic Middle East is a good thing because Jesus will appear on that shining cloud any day now.
You want us to take you seriously because you take your religious beliefs seriously?? Fine. Now consider seriously what the implications are of those beliefs in a real world.
Joe(please keep your hands where we can see them)Nation