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Recycling: What a Waste!

 
 
Chumly
 
Reply Thu 7 Jun, 2007 06:22 pm
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This fall, school kids across the country will again be taught a chief doctrine in the civic religion: recycle, not only because you fear the police but also because you love the planet. They come home well prepared to be the enforcers of the creed against parents who might inadvertently drop a foil ball into the glass bin or overlook a plastic wrapper in the aluminum bin.

Oh, I used to believe in recycling, and I still believe in the other two R's: reducing and reusing. However, recycling is a waste of time, money, and ever-scarce resources. What John Tierney wrote in the New York Times nearly 10 years ago is still true: "Recycling may be the most wasteful activity in modern America."

Reducing and reusing make sense. With no investment in resources, I can place the plastic grocery bag in the bathroom garbage can and save a penny or so for some more-pressing need. Reducing and reusing are free market activities that are profitable investments of time and labor.

Any astute entrepreneur will see the benefit of conserving factors of production. Today, builders construct houses using less wood than similar houses built just 20 years ago. In addition, these houses are built sturdier; for the most part anyway.

The Green's love for trees did not reduce the amount of wood used in construction; the reduction was simply a reaction to the increasing cost for wood products. Using less wood makes financial sense, and any entrepreneur worth his profit will change his recipe to conserve wood through better design or by substituting less dear materials for wood products.

A recent Mises article, Ethanol and the Calculation Issue, noted the inability to calculate the true cost of producing Ethanol. No one can calculate the cost of all the factors of production in the direction from the highest order labor and land down to the lowest order Ethanol at the pump. Certainly the Chicago School, Keynesians, etc., will give the calculation the old college try, to no avail of course. Absent government supports, the price of Ethanol at the pump reveals the most accurate economic cost of producing that fuel.

The same applies to recycling. What is the true cost of all the factors involved in the recycling process? I do not have a clue. Though using Misesian logic, I know that the cost of recycling exceed its benefit. This is the simple result of the observation that recycling does not return a financial profit.

I used to recycle; it paid. As a child living in the Pittsburgh area, I would collect and clean used glass containers. After collecting a sufficient amount of glass, my father would drive the three or so miles to the local glass factory where the owner gladly exchanged cleaned waste glass for dollars. In this instance, I was an entrepreneur investing factors of production in order to turn dirty waste glass into capital. The value of the exchange exceeded my preference for time, hard work, and my parents' soap, water, and auto fuel. (Of course all of my exchanges against my parents' resources were high on my preference list, but that is another issue altogether). In this activity, I was not recycling in the standard use of the term. I was producing factors of production ?- cleaned glass ?- for a profit.

So, what is wrong with recycling? The answer is simple; it does not pay. In addition, since it does not pay, it is an inefficient use of the time, money, and scarce resources. As Mises would have argued: let prices be your guide. Prices are essential to evaluate actions ex post. If the accounting of a near past event reveals a financial loss, the activity was a waste of both the entrepreneur's and society's scarce resources.

That said, I am supposed to believe that I need to invest resources into cleaning and sorting all sorts of recyclable materials for no compensation; an activity that many considered economically efficient. In addition, in some local communities, residents have to pay extra so that a waste company will recycle their paper, plastic, and glass as the recycling bins come with a per-month fee.

In other areas, such as my township, the garbage company profits at the mercy of the political class. The trustees in my township specified that in order to win the waste removal contract, the winning company had to provide recycling bins. Further, they have to send special trucks around to empty those neatly packed bins and deliver the bins' contents to companies that have no pressing need for these unraw materials. The recycling bins are ostensibly free, but in reality, their cost is bundled into my monthly waste removal bill.

Since there is no market for recyclable materials, at least no market price sufficient to return my investment in soap and water, not to mention time and labor, I conclude that there is no pressing need for recycling.

Ok, but what about the lack of landfills nationwide? If landfills were truly in short supply, then the cost of dumping waste would quickly rise. I would then see the financial benefit to reducing my waste volume. And since the recycling bin does not count toward waste volume, the more in the recycling bin, the less in the increasingly expensive garbage cans. Prices drive entrepreneurial calculations and, hence, human action. Recycling is no different.

Come on now, there cannot be any benefit to even the neoclassical society if you actually have to pay someone to remove recyclables.

Since recycling does not turn a profit, it is more efficient to utilize the scarce resources devoted to recycling activities in other modes of production. Instead of wasting resources on recycling, it would be more prudent to invest that money so that entrepreneurs can create new recipes to conserve scarce materials in the production process.

Human action guides resources toward the activities that meet the most pressing needs. This movement of resources means that those activities that do not meet pressing needs are relatively expensive. Why? Those activities have to bid for factors of production along with the profitable activities ?- activities that are meeting the most pressing needs. The profitable activities will drive the cost of those scarce factors upward leading to financial ruin for those activities that do not satisfy the most pressing needs. Forced recycling is such a failed activity.

The concept of diminishing recyclable resources is fraught with errors. Glass headed to the landfills will sit quietly awaiting someone to desire its value. The glass is not going anywhere, and should glass become as dear as gold ?- or even slightly less dear, you can bet that entrepreneurs will begin mining landfills for all those junked glass bottles.

The only caveat to this train of thought is what Rothbard wrote about when he discussed psychic profit: the perceived benefit one receives from performing an action, even if that action leads to an economic loss.

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Who reaps the real psychic reward from recycling? The statist do-gooder and the obsessed conservationist. Since recycling is now a statist goal, the do-gooders and greens force the cost of recycling on the unsuspecting masses by selling recycling as a pseudo-spiritual activity. In addition to these beneficiaries, there are those who have not considered the full costs of recycling, but their psychic benefit is more ephemeral than real. The other winners are the companies that do the collecting and process the materials, an industry sustained by mandates at the local level.

If recycling at a financial loss leads you to greater psychic profit, then recycle, recycle, recycle. Let your personal preferences guide your actions, but do not force your preference schedule on others who have a different preference rank for their own actions. And, do not delude yourself into thinking that you are economizing anything; you are simply increasing your psychic profit at the expense of a more rational investment. But, hey, your actions are your business; just don't use government to force your preferences on my lifestyle.

Oh, and do not tell my children half the recycling story. Remember Hazlitt and turn over the second and third stones before drawing an economic conclusion.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jun, 2007 06:25 pm
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LONDON ?- Throw away the green and blue bags and forget those trips to return bottles ?- recycling household waste is a load of, well, rubbish, say leading environmentalists and waste campaigners.

In a reversal of decades-old wisdom, they argue that burning cardboard, plastics and food leftovers is better for the environment and the economy than recycling.

They dismiss household trash separation ?- a practice encouraged by the green lobby ?- as a waste of time and money.

The assertions, likely to horrify many environmentalists, are made by five campaigners from Sweden, a country renowned for its concern for the environment and advanced approach to waste.

They include Valfrid Paulsson, a former director-general of the government's environmental protection agency; Soren Norrby, the former campaign manager for Keep Sweden Tidy, and the former managing directors of three waste-collection companies.

The Swedes' views are shared by many British local authorities, who have drawn up plans to build up to 50 incinerators in an attempt to tackle a growing waste mountain and cut the amount of garbage going to landfills.

"For years, recycling has been held up as the best way to deal with waste. It's time that myth was exploded," said one deputy council leader in southern England.

A spokesman for East Sussex County Council, which plans to build an incinerator, said, "It's idealistic to think that everything can be recycled. It's just not possible. Incineration has an important role to play."

The Swedish group said that the "vision of a recycling market booming by 2010 was a dream 40 years ago and is still just a dream."

The use of incineration to burn household waste ?- including packaging and food ?- "is best for the environment, the economy and the management of natural resources," they wrote in an article for the newspaper Dagens Nyheter.

Technological improvements have made incineration cleaner, the article said, and the process could be used to generate electricity, cutting dependency on oil.

Mr. Paulsson and his co-campaigners said that collecting household cartons was "very unprofitable."

Recycled bottles cost glass companies twice as much as the raw materials, and recycling plastics was uneconomical, they said. "Plastics are made from oil and can quite simply be incinerated."

The Swedes stressed that the collection of dangerous waste, such as batteries, electrical appliances, medicines, paint and chemicals "must be further improved."

They added, "Protection of the environment can mean economic sacrifices, but to maintain the credibility of environmental politics the environmental gains must be worth the sacrifice."

The Environmental Services Association, representing the British waste industry, agreed that the benefits of incineration had been largely ignored.

Andrew Ainsworth, its senior policy executive, said, "This is a debate that we need to have in this country. Recycled products have got to compete in a global market, and sometimes recycling will not be economically viable or environmentally sustainable."

A spokesman for the government's Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs said incineration was "way down the list" because "it causes dangerous emissions, raises public concern and sends out a negative message about reuse."

http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/Environment/myth_recycling.htm
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Chumly
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jun, 2007 06:31 pm
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Is recycling a waste of time?


Giving used cans and boxes a new life is good housekeeping. Dumping the waste on Asia is not, says Lucy Siegle

Sunday January 15, 2006
The Observer


It's the ultimate eco betrayal: Camden householders painstakingly rinsing out pet-food cans and agonising over the correct receptacle for co-mingled rubbish (eg cardboard boxes with plasticised innards) only to discover that their carefully sorted recycling has a one-way ticket to China.

This unhappy incident is not isolated. The volume of packaging waste in transit every year from the UK - most of it to Asia - will soon pass the 1.5m tonnes mark. Who knows where your rubbish goes to be recycled? (As a last resort, try the Environment Agency.) Some local authorities choose to play dumb, others simply don't know - today's paper trail, controlled by a handful of huge waste companies, is as complex as it is exotic. There are those, admittedly apocryphal, tales of UK holidaymakers finding the envelopes they sent for recycling fluttering around Indonesian landfills.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,1684673,00.html
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Chumly
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jun, 2007 06:32 pm
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Recycling, Waste of Time and Money
Just to add to my recent claim that recycling is a waste of time and money:

Franklin Associates, which provides consulting services for solid waste management, estimates that curbside recycling is 55 percent more expensive, pound for pound, than conventional garbage disposal.

OK, that's the US, maybe landfill prices are different or something. But my basic contention that the time spent sorting adds costs:

Seattle Public Utilities researchers (in collaboration with University of California, Davis) conducted a survey in 2005 that indicated 98 percent of Seattle households participate in the curbside recycling program, and that 16 minutes are spent recycling per household.

(That figure is per week when you run through their other calculations.)

OK. We know that domestic waste disposal costs us 1.6 billion pounds a year because the Prime Minister has told us so. 24 million odd households, the time spent by people recycling has to be valued. Take 5 quid an hour, somewhere around the minimum wage maybe? 16 minutes? Call it 15 as I did?

1.56 billion quid spent preparing stuff to be recycled.

Nope, sorry, recycling, waste of time, money and effort.


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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jun, 2007 06:39 pm
Recycle? No! Pile it all at Chumly's front door. He he.
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Shapeless
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jun, 2007 06:42 pm
There was an article about this in the New York Times Magazine many years ago, advancing essentially the same point. There were many angry letters to the editor the following week, and as I recall most of them took issue with the author by saying that recycling wasn't about the money, it was about the "moral principle," or something like that. The letters were a bit vague on what that might mean.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jun, 2007 07:07 pm
I agree with Chumly. I reuse and reduce, and don't recycle. In my town recycling is optional. I opt out. I think that concept sounds very noble in theory, but is wasteful in practice.

Whenever I see the recycling trucks, I always think that some politician's brother-in-law is making a lot of money off the gullibility of some people!
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Chumly
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jun, 2007 11:08 pm
I'm with you all, I'm just not convinced the net benefits are real for home recycling: cost-wise / energy-wise / ecology-wise. However Mrs. Chumly is an avid diehard recycler, she'll actually re-sort all my garbage piece by piece!

I do go for the reuse and reduce deal though, in fact more than she does ?'cause I get more bulk items with less packaging and I don't go for all the over-packaged individualized designer stuff she goes for.

Where we live it looks like a ton of money and energy is needlessly wasted on a series of fancy separate bins for all the various recyclables.
edgarblythe wrote:
Recycle? No! Pile it all at Chumly's front door. He he.
Hey it would prolly excite my wife as she'd go into mega-save-the-world-re-sort-recycle-overdrive-mode!
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dadpad
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jun, 2007 03:02 am
Garbage is a raw material just the same way as a tree or crude oil.

Crude oil is a usless product in its natural state. however after undergoing "sorting" it has a vartiety of uses.

How much does it cost to get crude out of the ground, refined, manufactured into plastic bags or shampoo bottles.

Trees are certainly not rubbish however only 42% (approx) of a tree is turned into timber. The rest is either left in the bush or chipped. Once again this could be seen as "sorting"

Then there is transport, crude and it derivitves are transported via pipeline, supertanker, road rail and every other means millions of miles to get to you.

Garbage is a raw material on your doorstep and requires very little transport by comparison.

Valuable products can be created from garbage.
It is up to us to recognise the value of rubbish/recycled materials as a RAW MATERIAL and manufacture products in economic proportions from this raw material. This requires that the product should have a perceived cost/benefit ratio, that it satisfies a need or performs a service.
The cost of curbside recycling will come down as more people recognise the value of products manufactured from garbage.

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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jun, 2007 03:28 am
Good points but how do you address:

As quoted above the issue then becomes "In a reversal of decades-old wisdom, they argue that burning cardboard, plastics and food leftovers is better for the environment and the economy than recycling." as opposed to your "Valuable products can be created from garbage." argument.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jun, 2007 03:37 am
I think the concepts of "Garbage is a raw material as opposed" to "garbage is a waste product" is key.
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Chai
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jun, 2007 04:50 am
book marking to read after a cup or 2....

I'm a believer of reduce and reuse too...
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CowDoc
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jun, 2007 08:15 am
Concerning non-combustibles, I advocate recycling even if it doesn't gain in resource conservation, just because it can extend the life of landfills.
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luvmykidsandhubby
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2007 05:51 pm
just bookmarking
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Montana
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2007 06:51 pm
Chai wrote:
book marking to read after a cup or 2....

I'm a believer of reduce and reuse too...


Same here.
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boomerang
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2007 07:05 pm
I recycle everything. My city makes it so easy.

Lawn debris and (some) food scraps go into one bin, garbage in another bin, recycleable things in another bin and they all get picked up on garbage day.

Metro (the regional government) has stations for toxic recycling where you can take motor oil, paint, batteries, all kinds of stuff. You drive up, they unload it and you're on your way. Free! (Well I'm sure taxes cover it so "no extra cost" might be more appropriate.) The paint is remixed into basic colors and available for purchase for about $5.00 a gallon. Cool!

Now I have to go back and read why my actions are so "wasteful" and silly. Maybe I should just start throwing all my toxic crap in the trash.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2007 07:12 pm
as far as i understand it , BURNING garbage in europe means using the burning processs to generate ENERGY , not simply burning it to get rid of it .
a fair number of power stations in europe BURN GARBAGE to produce energy , i believe .
hbg

better explanation than i can give :
BIOMASS
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2007 07:55 pm
Right, it's not so much that waste management should not be addressed or that the reduction of needless waste generating consumption should not be reviewed, it's the question of the true costs and full environmental impact of recycling versus the alternatives such as burning or/or land fills and/or breaking down of the waste for more general distribution etc

In boomer's case the ease with he/she accomplish said recycling and the (I assume) good feelings he/she gets from doing so are not justifiable rationales from the perspective the true costs and environmental impact of recycling versus the alternatives.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2007 08:02 pm
with out reading the opening posts..

recycling plastic is actually begining to be as harmfull as producing NEW plastic.

Simply because, it takes a brand new layer of plastic to coat the old "recycled plastic" to keep the chemicals from leaking into what ever is inside the container.
This practice... ( and I can not , for the life of me, remember WHERE i learned this..) is actually starting to require as much energy and plastic production because more and more people are recycling thier plastic jugs.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2007 08:14 pm
Part of the reason I started this thread is because Mrs. Chum is an avid die-hard recycler and I am not........very.

She weeds through the garbage pulling out any and all items I might throw in regardless of the fact that in the bigger picture she is unable to qualify or quantify that for example putting glass into a separate recycling bin is going to help the environment more that it hurts it. Mrs. Chum will on occasion be quick to gently chastise me for some "hidden treasure" I threw out .

No doubt not generating the stuff in the first place is the most efficient and direct solution and in that spirit I never go to fast food restaurants nor buy any newspapers or magazines or new books, nor do I have any kids.

As to the kids aspect, no doubt some posters might be tempted to flame me, but that facts are that there are more than enough people on the planet, generating more than enough waste as things stand now, and if the population was way smaller, then waste concerns would perhaps be proportionally less too.
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