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Hillary's 'FAITH' Carried Her Through...

 
 
baddog1
 
Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2007 10:26 am
Interesting article!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19039626/

Clinton says faith got her through marital woes
Edwards and Obama also appear at religious forum
The Associated Press
Updated: 5:20 a.m. ET June 5, 2007
WASHINGTON - In a rare public discussion of her husband's infidelity, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton said Monday that she probably could not have endured her marital troubles without relying on her faith in God.

Clinton stood by her actions in the aftermath of former President Clinton's admission that he had an affair, including presumably her decision to stay in the marriage.

"I am very grateful that I had a grounding in faith that gave me the courage and the strength to do what I thought was right, regardless of what the world thought," Clinton said during a forum where the three leading Democratic presidential candidates talked about faith and values.

"I'm not sure I would have gotten through it without my faith," she said.

The forum, sponsored by the liberal Sojourners/Call to Renewal evangelical organization, provided an uncommon glimpse into the most personal beliefs of Clinton and rivals John Edwards and Barack Obama. The most intimate question came about the Clintons' relationship, one of the world's most debated marriages but one that the husband and wife rarely speak openly about.

Clinton said she's "been tested in ways that are both publicly known and those that are not so well known or not known at all." She said it's those times when her personal faith and the prayers of others sustain her.

"At those moments in time when you are tested, it is absolutely essential that you be grounded in your faith," she said.

Edwards revealed that he prays ?- and sins ?- every day. The crowd gasped loudly when moderator Soledad O'Brien asked Edwards to name the biggest sin he ever committed, and he won their applause when he said he would have a hard time naming one thing.

"I sin every single day," said Edwards, the 2004 vice presidential nominee. "We are all sinners and we all fall short."

Edwards, wearing a purple tie to match Sojourners' signature color, promoted himself as the candidate most committed to the group's mission of fighting poverty. He said he doesn't feel his belief in evolution is inconsistent with his belief in Christ and he doesn't personally feel gays should be married, although as president he wouldn't impose his belief system on the rest of the country.

"I have a deep and abiding love for my Lord, Jesus Christ," Edwards said, but he said the United States shouldn't be called a Christian nation.

He said he has been going to church since he was a child and was baptized as a teen. He said he strayed from his faith as an adult and it came "roaring back" when his teenage son died in 1996.

"It was the Lord that got me through that," Edwards said, along with both of his wife's cancer diagnoses.

Clinton acknowledged that talking about her religious beliefs doesn't come naturally to her.

"I take my faith very seriously and very personally," she said. "And I come from a tradition that is perhaps a little too suspicious of people who wear their faith on their sleeves."

Each candidate was given 15 minutes to appear before the packed auditorium at George Washington University's Lisner Auditorium and a live audience on CNN. They were questioned by O'Brien and by church leaders across the country.


Obama's appearance focused more on policy than the personal. Asked whether he agreed with President Bush's portrayal of the current global struggles in terms of good verses evil, Obama said there is a risk in viewing the world in such terms.

He said he believes that the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, were the result of evil. But he said that the United States' treatment of prisoners at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay is unjust.

"The danger of using good verses evil in the context of war is that it may lead us to be not as critical as we should about our own actions," Obama said to applause.

© 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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TTH
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2007 10:51 am
Sure it is interesting, I guess, but didn't you read the bottom of the page you posted? It says "All rights reserved................."
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baddog1
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2007 11:24 am
TTH wrote:
Sure it is interesting, I guess, but didn't you read the bottom of the page you posted? It says "All rights reserved................."


No worries - I know a friend of my 3rd cousin who visits the building next to the AP headquarters every second Wednesday evening of each month. She occasionally has coffee with with one of the part-time elevator attendants from the AP building and he gave her/us permission to reprint. I appreciate you looking out for me though! Very Happy
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hamburger
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2007 12:19 pm
watched part of an interview with HC yesterday(CNN) ... she was asked about the role of religion in her life ...
all i can say : she sure learned a lot from bill ! Laughing
if that performance won't bring a few more million votes , nothing will Shocked Laughing
hbg
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maporsche
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2007 06:50 pm
Are you calling her a liar?
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hamburger
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2007 06:58 pm
of course not ; i have "full faith and confidence " in HC ... and bill !
hbg
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stlstrike3
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jun, 2007 10:33 pm
She'd be a moron not to suck up to the religious sect of America. The best leader in the world wouldn't stand a chance at becoming president if they claimed to be atheist.

Politicians aren't stupid (except for Bush)... but they all know who puts them in office.
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baddog1
 
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Reply Wed 6 Jun, 2007 05:11 am
stlstrike3 wrote:
She'd be a moron not to suck up to the religious sect of America. The best leader in the world wouldn't stand a chance at becoming president if they claimed to be atheist.

Politicians aren't stupid (except for Bush)... but they all know who puts them in office.


Translation: She should lie & deceive in order to get the 'religious' vote which will help her become one of the best leaders (liars) in the world.

Excellent mindset stl! Laughing
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 6 Jun, 2007 06:12 am
baddog1 wrote:
stlstrike3 wrote:
She'd be a moron not to suck up to the religious sect of America. The best leader in the world wouldn't stand a chance at becoming president if they claimed to be atheist.

Politicians aren't stupid (except for Bush)... but they all know who puts them in office.


Translation: She should lie & deceive in order to get the 'religious' vote which will help her become one of the best leaders (liars) in the world.

Excellent mindset stl! Laughing


I take a middle ground. "Faith" is the big buzzword anmongst some circles. She may or may not be truthful, and what politicians are? What she is doing in my opinion is playing to to separate constituencies.

One obviously, is the religious right. The other are those women who have gone through similar marital tribulations. This was a marvelous opportunity to both deflect the entire Lewinsky thing, and to modify her perception as being a hard edged calculator. I am sure that there were women all over America who shook their heads in assent when she spoke those words.
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stlstrike3
 
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Reply Wed 6 Jun, 2007 07:12 am
Phoenix32890 wrote:
baddog1 wrote:
stlstrike3 wrote:
She'd be a moron not to suck up to the religious sect of America. The best leader in the world wouldn't stand a chance at becoming president if they claimed to be atheist.

Politicians aren't stupid (except for Bush)... but they all know who puts them in office.


Translation: She should lie & deceive in order to get the 'religious' vote which will help her become one of the best leaders (liars) in the world.

Excellent mindset stl! Laughing


I take a middle ground. "Faith" is the big buzzword anmongst some circles. She may or may not be truthful, and what politicians are? What she is doing in my opinion is playing to to separate constituencies.

One obviously, is the religious right. The other are those women who have gone through similar marital tribulations. This was a marvelous opportunity to both deflect the entire Lewinsky thing, and to modify her perception as being a hard edged calculator. I am sure that there were women all over America who shook their heads in assent when she spoke those words.


Oh, if I were in her position? I'd do the exact same thing.

But once I was in office I'd be like, "Yeah... ya know... the whole god thing doesn't make a lot of sense to me anymore. Oh, and churches can pay taxes just like the rest of Americans.... Amen."

Smile
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baddog1
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jun, 2007 11:04 am
stlstrike3 wrote:
...Oh, if I were in her position? I'd do the exact same thing.

But once I was in office I'd be like, "Yeah... ya know... the whole god thing doesn't make a lot of sense to me anymore. Oh, and churches can pay taxes just like the rest of Americans.... Amen."

Smile


It is doubtful that anyone on here would dispute the notion that you would lie & deceive in order to get whatever it is you desire strike.

Amen. :wink:
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jun, 2007 01:12 pm
Faith and a couple treestumps masquerading as thighs.
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