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coberst
 
Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 05:13 am
What do you think?

Mammals evolved on this planet about 200 million years ago. One type of mammal, the hominid, began using audible signals to convey meaning about 4 million years ago. Language, as we comprehend that word, began much less than 4 million years ago.

What is thought? The dictionary gives us various definitions of thought; I would guess that it is accurate to say that the actions of neural networks that control our sensorimotor actions can be regarded as thought. In other words, such things as memory, control of movements, and processing of sense inputs are all a process of thinking. Thinking produces thoughts. Thinking goes on all the time even while we sleep.

I guess that we will agree that all mammals had to have the ability to think. This leads to the conclusion that thinking was been happening on this planet at least 200 million years before human language existed on this planet.

Those individuals who accept the science of evolution must then conclude that humans may think in linguistic forms some small percentage of the time but that most thought is not in linguistic form.What does all this mean to you? It means that most of the things that you think are true about thinking are pure non-sense. This also applies to many of the things we all believe that are based upon the philosophical attitudes that fills our life are like wise pure non-sense.
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fresco
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 07:50 am
I think the fact that you got no response on the "Hypography Science Forum" to this question prompted you to post it here some hours later.

Your question is ill prepared. Do some reading on the strong and weak forms of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, and the Santiago Theory of Cognition, and then decide if the question was worth asking.
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 10:12 pm
well since i spend most of my time between thoughts that is hard to describe.

here goes.

<clap>

hey fresco!
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 10:32 pm
<nothing programmatic>
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 10:43 pm
Well, there is touch, sight, hearing, taste, smell and thought.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 10:55 pm
Gelisgesti wrote:
Well, there is touch, sight, hearing, taste, smell and thought.


My sight has long been a mess, but functioning in daylight; my hearing has been in tharn for about twenty years, at the least, constant tinnitus; I never had much of a sense of smell, some kind of hereditary anosmia; but, hey, I can taste, despite what people say about the nature of taste buds, and think, on occasion; and, touch is good.

I'd really like not to be lectured in some robotic fashion.
At the same time, I gleem that coberst can't break out of the robotics.
I somewhat understand, but am sorry about it.
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 11:01 pm
I keep trying to think but nothing is happening!
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 11:01 pm
Oh, yeah, I didn't read the question, past a few sentences... no patience for robotry. Have the odd need to speak up once in a while.


In the meantime, maybe I'm a display against his pov, re thinking and sense. Of course, who knows.
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coberst
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 02:01 am
This is certainly an articulate group.
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fresco
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 07:24 am
Hey kuvasz !!

Maybe you and I should "educate" coberst with a discussion of "Man the Three Brained Being" as outlined by the big G. He might then have some fun allocating his "95% of thoughts" to the "other two brains". :wink:
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 10:45 am
fresco wrote:
Hey kuvasz !!

Maybe you and I should "educate" coberst with a discussion of "Man the Three Brained Being" as outlined by the big G. He might then have some fun allocating his "95% of thoughts" to the "other two brains". :wink:


greetings, fresco

as i read through the discussion it all appears likely that one has to start somewhere, so the seminal discusion ought to be "what was the first idea?"

(which is where we came in six years ago)

from there it all falls out vis-a-vis cogition

coberst, fresco and i refer to gurdjieff, he is awfully dense but insightful, in a mystic sort of way, observing your remarks on this site lend one who has read him to suggest you do the same.
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