piffka - i was able to go and edit the title by going to the first post and editing it (i changed it back since my edit was just a goof)
Beth
Thanks for the poetry poll. Mind you - I read it as "posy troll".. I really must get new specs.!!!
I'm the furriner up there in other - as you might expect. Wot, no Aussies??? What about the Irish??
Well, I always like to use bandwidth in a proper poesy sort of way.
Anyway, thanks, I'll go try and fix my subject title.
ehBeth
I suggest the following nine categories of poetry:
Poetry written in English* to 1800
Poetry written in English* 1800-1900
Poetry written in English* 1900-present
European** Poetry to 1800
European** Poetry 1800-1900
European** Poetry 1900-present
World Poetry*** to 1800
World Poetry*** 1800-1900
World Poetry*** 1900-present
*This category would ordinarily include English, Irish, (w/e poetry in gaelic), American, Canadian, Australian, and New zealand poetry.
An exception might be an African writing from an African cultural perspective who happens to be writing in English. In that instance you could make a case for it being in the 'world poetry' category.
**Including Russian
***Poetry written by Asian poets, African poets, Latin American poets.
Interesting idea, jjorge. I see the poets of the british isles as being part of the european contingent and honestly couldn't have imagined putting brit and american poets in the same category. I suspect it has to do with how we were taught in decades past. Clearly more mulling to be done.
ehBeth
I understand that it is British and American poets are traditionally grouped separately. For the purposes of study, analysis etc that makes a great deal of sense.
However you could readily make the case that Victorian era poets
on both sides of the Atlantic have more in common with each other
than with 20th century poets.
There are many ways to skin a cat and divide poets.
Whatever arrangement that lets me find a particular poet readily,
works for me.
jjorge*197982* wrote:ehBeth
There are many ways to skin a cat and divide poets.
Exactly my problem when I set the poll up to begin with! Why can't it be as easy as 'numbers from 1 - 10, numbers from 11- 20 !?!
I really do appreciate the input everyone is giving with all of this.
jjorge - for all your help, you get an extra vote (well, not exactly) - if you had your druthers - what would be your one favourite category of poets/poetry? give it any kind of name you want/write it in verse/get crazy!
This is our chance to make our poetry forum distinctive, and usable.
Hiya, Hiya, and Good Morning.
I'd like to suggest that there be a break for ancient to medieval poetry. From the beginnings of time to 1800 seems like too large a span.
I am most (but not exclusively*) interested in poetry by English speaking poets from 1900 on. Almost all of my favorites are in that grouping ie:
Frost, Hardy, Heaney, E Bishop, ESVM, Auden, Larkin, Yeats.
Interestingly this group contains three Americans, two brits and two Irishmen.
Some further thoughts:
Mixing Yankee bards with Brits
Puts some people into fits
(Of course there's some that get real cranky
about ANYTHING that's 'Yankee')
Mixing metered and free verses
Earn's you someone's fervent curses.
Some will swoon and get hysteric
Over anything that's lyric.
Jack get's nauseous with post-modern
Jill Hate's Pound but swoons with Auden.
Some say Ferlinghetti's bold
Others say, 'He leaves me cold'.
Akhmatova, Swinburne, Heaney
Have devotees, few or many.
ANY way that they are grouped
Some will feel betrayed or duped.
But any grouping's fine with me
Even if it's 'A' to 'Z'!!
*Alas my VERY favorite poet is a lass from the nineteenth century.
I speak of 'The Divine Miss Em' of course! (aka Emily Dickinson)
jjorge - i think you may have just created the intro to our forum index!
<applause applause applause>
<psssssst have you ever read the Mapp and Lucia books by E.F. Benson, or seen them on PBS? - i keep reading your name as Georgino <grin>>
Jjorge! Nice verse.
Beth - I love the Mapp and Lucia stories, but Jjorge as Georgino? In person, Jjorge would never give you that idea!
Jjorge? Can you play piano? Duets?
charming, artistic - sounds like Georgino to me <big grin>. I do know what you mean.
You are too kind Bethy...
BUT STOP IT! applause gives me diarrhea -I've got to run!
PS (jjorge squeezes in a little PS while squeezing his glutei
together)
No, I haven't read 'em. I'm something of a Philistine as I spend so much time reading news, poetry and non-fiction that I don't get around to reading much else. bye
Georgino was charming and artistic and very effeminate, Jjorge. Almost all the ladies loved him, however.
Take your choice!
(jjorge between trips to the bathroom)
Hi piffka,
I don't play piano or any instrument (sigh).
I have always thought I'd like to but can't seem to find the time.
Now what's with this Giorgino guy? I picture... no never mind what i picture!
Georgino is described as Lucia's "aide-de-camp, a supremely fussy, utterly cowed sidekick..."
Also, "Lucia's best friend Georgie Pillson is a nervy, fussy gay man who spends his evenings with his embroidery. His dyed hair and toupee are common knowledge to Tilling, although he would die if he thought anyone else knew."
___________
No. Not you. Beth's just tweakin' ya, Jjorge.
He did, however, play piano much better than Lucia and actually knew a little Italian.
Gads, that's right. They did get married.
I stand by my original statement...... Jjorge would never remind you of Georgino in person.