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Kansas church plans to picket victims' funerals

 
 
Reply Sat 21 Apr, 2007 04:07 pm
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April 20, 2007
A fringe church that has garnered attention and scorn for protesting funerals of troops killed in Iraq is planning to picket services for the victims of the Virginia Tech shootings.

Members of the Westboro Baptist Church have disrupted funerals across the country over the past few years with profane signs saying that deaths in Iraq are retribution triggered by America's tolerance of homosexuals.

A church news release explains: "God is punishing America for her sodomite sins... The 33 massacred at Virginia Tech died for America's sins against WBC (Westboro Baptist Church). Just as U.S. soldiers dying in Iraq each day for America's sins against WBC."

Attorney General Bob McDonnell is warning protesters that they could be arrested if they interrupt the funerals. McDonnell's spokesman sent out an e-mail detailing the section of the Virginia Code that can be used to quell disturbances at funerals.

McDonnell's e-mail did not explicitly say protesters would be arrested and charged, but did say that the state's top lawyer "wants to ensure that those who perished on Monday receive the dignified and tranquil services that they, and their families, deserve."

The state code states that a person can be charged with disorderly conduct for willfully disrupting any funeral or memorial service.

A handful of protesters picketed outside of Quantico Marine Corps Base last December during a memorial service for a fallen Marine. The group has threatened to protest at other events but not shown up.

Pastor Fred Phelps and his congregation at the church in Topeka, Kan., travel the country preaching damnation to a "nation of sinners,'" routinely glorying in the death of U.S. soldiers.

His church of 75 people, many of them his relatives, believes that God causes the deaths of soldiers as punishment for a society that condones homosexuality.

They routinely carry signs that read "Thank God for IEDs," referring to the improvised explosive devices that have killed many troops in Iraq.

The group has offended state and federal lawmakers, who have passed laws aimed at curbing their protests. Congress passed a law that restricts demonstrations at national cemeteries and last year Virginia's Gov. Timothy M. Kaine signed a bill making such protests in Virginia a misdemeanor. An online petition railing against Phelps and the protests had already gathered nearly 31,000 signatures.





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Greyfan
 
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Reply Sat 21 Apr, 2007 04:23 pm
Freedom of speech can have awkward consequences.

The fact that the members of the Westboro church have not been crushed by mysterious unseen forces I take as evidence that God does not interfere in human affairs as often as He should.

He certainly does not seem to care what is done in His name.
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neologist
 
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Reply Sat 21 Apr, 2007 11:10 pm
Washington State has crafted a law defining the distance these 'folks' must stay from funerals. They haven't been around for a while now.

It is true that God doesn't intervene in our affairs as often as we might like.

Then again, there may be a reason.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 21 Apr, 2007 11:37 pm
I can't read this poop tonight. Well, of course I could, but won't.

Manana.
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Shapeless
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2007 12:02 am
Re: Kansas church plans to picket victims' funerals
shewolfnm wrote:
I.can.not.believe.this.


Sadly, I do believe it. I wish I could be surprised at some of the f*cked up things zealots do, but few things surprise me any more.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2007 03:35 am
The "good folks" at Westboro Baptist Church sound more delusional than the guy who did the shootings! Shocked
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CerealKiller
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2007 03:48 am
Phoenix32890 wrote:
The "good folks" at Westboro Baptist Church sound more delusional than the guy who did the shootings! Shocked


Too bad we can't hook them up.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2007 03:55 am
Re: Kansas church plans to picket victims' funerals
shewolfnm wrote:
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April 20, 2007:
Members of the Westboro Baptist Church have disrupted funerals across the country over the past few years with profane signs saying that deaths in Iraq are retribution triggered by America's tolerance of homosexuals. ...........



I.can.not.believe.this.



I.can.not.believe.this.either.

Totally insensitive fruitcakes, they've gotta be!
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2007 05:40 am
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His church of 75 people, many of them his relatives, believes that God causes the deaths of soldiers as punishment for a society that condones homosexuality.


I found this statement to be really creepy.

The church is nothing but his family members, and a few outsiders.

He is obviously touched in the head, and has a minor control issue ( insert knee deep sarcasim here)

So, all of his anger, his energy, and his passion goes to sex.
Sex issues, sex wrongs, sex beliefs...


So, why am I, an outsider, willing to bet money.. that man is touching little kids?
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2007 05:48 am
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So, why am I, an outsider, willing to bet money.. that man is touching little kids?


shewolfnm- I don't know about little kids, but I would bet that somewhere in that nutjob's psyche, there is a bit of confusion with respects to his own personal sexuality. People who are frightened of their own conflicted sexual feelings sometimes deny those feelings by loudly protesting in others what they fear the most in themselves.

"The gentleman he doth protest too much"!
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2007 05:55 am
Very true.

I would hope it isnt little boys that are giving him such an "unchristian" conflict...
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xingu
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2007 06:14 am
This is good free publicity for them. They are appealing to like minds who have not heard of them as yet. With 300 million people in this country try to image how many religious fruitcakes like them are out there. It's times like these that generates money and support for extremists.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2007 06:30 am
Sad, but very true.

I bet we will see more of this group as soon as they have gathered all of their odd ball followers.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2007 08:54 am
http://www.petitiononline.com/fred3456/petition.html



A down with Fred Phelps petition online.. Laughing

You can bet I signed it.

Dont know what good it will do.. !
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NickFun
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2007 10:14 am
I suspect these are a bunch of closeted homosexuals. I "accidentally" outed once and almost lost my life! http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=70969&highlight=
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martybarker
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2007 03:45 pm
neologist wrote:
Washington State has crafted a law defining the distance these 'folks' must stay from funerals. They haven't been around for a while now.

It is true that God doesn't intervene in our affairs as often as we might like.

Then again, there may be a reason.


This saddens me. Don't these people have anything better to do???


PS, neologist, I've been to that starbucks!
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Eorl
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2007 06:58 pm
CerealKiller wrote:
Phoenix32890 wrote:
The "good folks" at Westboro Baptist Church sound more delusional than the guy who did the shootings! Shocked


Too bad we can't hook them up.


Too bad we can't cook them up. 'specially if they are fruitcakes. Mmmm, crunchable zealots.....

To Fred, everything bad seems to be the fault of sodomites. This guy was definately touched by the hand of someone other than god.
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kate4christ03
 
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Reply Mon 23 Apr, 2007 08:37 am
their pretty crazy... i remember last year, they came to churches in our area and protested against homosexuality. it was pretty ludicrous. the thing that saddened me though was seeing 4 yr olds holding up signs with slogans of profanity and hatred.
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2007 09:36 am
the weird thing is that the minister of this madness used to be a civil rights lawyer. Weird right? he went crazy, then was disbared.

The Westboro Baptist Church is a bunch of idiots. However, I think that it is important for Christians to think about how easy it is for your own religion to be so easily misrepresented, and then evaluate how you feel about muslims and muslim extremists.

[/soapbox]
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stlstrike3
 
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Reply Sun 6 May, 2007 02:24 pm
So... how does he not know that god is smiting us, not because of our tolerance to homosexuals, but because we are allowing women ministers in churches?

"I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over a man; she must be silent." 1 Timothy 2

I find it funny that Christians attack Fred Phelps as this crazy nut, when they are enacting similar reasoning behind political activity to deny homosexuals rights.
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