c logic
 
Reply Mon 5 Mar, 2007 11:16 am
http://www.teamjd.net/images/uploads/atheist.jpg
http://objectiveministries.org/kidz/art/kidzart-atheistontheloose.png

Sources:
http://objectiveministries.org/kidz/
http://objectiveministries.org/kidz/art4.html

WTF?

What are your opinions on this?
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aidan
 
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Reply Mon 5 Mar, 2007 12:30 pm
It made me laugh...I'm still laughing....everytime I think of it I laugh more.
Laughing Laughing
(I especially like the little girl with the square glasses)

As I asked on another thread, where are these people (who create media such as this) hiding out? I'd love to meet one of them, just for the novelty value...
I guess the downside of it (that's not so funny) is that it's giving little kids the idea that atheists are on a par with sex offenders. It has that kind of inflammatory, scare tactic feel to it- almost as if atheists should have to register when they move into a neighborhood -so good christian kids won't be exposed.
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c logic
 
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Reply Mon 5 Mar, 2007 12:51 pm
Haha yeah, this stuff definitely cracks me up since it's so overboard Laughing
The sad part is that the people/kids who made this stuff didn't mean it as a joke...

aidan wrote:
it's giving little kids the idea that atheists are on a par with sex offenders.


Yes, that's unfortunately a good way to put it. Sad
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aidan
 
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Reply Mon 5 Mar, 2007 01:03 pm
I just clicked on the links. "Objective"?! Yeah right. I don't believe kids really create (or even participate in the creation of) this stuff though, do you? The thoughts are just a little too cohesive and the presentation just a little too slick.

It reminds me of a video I saw somewhere where this woman was kind of engaging in this group brainwashing of a load of kids at a Christian camp. Her demeanor and the words she was saying reminded me of Hitler in his heyday, only she was warning against "worldly people"- in other words anyone out in the world.
It brought me back to when my son started kindergarten and there was a mother in the neighborhood who couldn't believe I would send him to public school where he would have to rub shoulders with the unclean masses (non-believers- although I guess there are people who wouldn't send their kids to public school to have them avoid other sorts who they deem "unclean masses"- I don't know which is worse).
But anyway, I asked her if she thought the other five year olds who'd be in his class would be horned demons or something. She didn't say a word, she just looked back at me, as if to say, "They might as well be." I know she thought I was making a big mistake...this stuff is kind of scary when you think of the fact that it's what kids are reading.

But as an adult I found it so absurd that it was funny- and I'd still like to meet its author.
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c logic
 
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Reply Mon 5 Mar, 2007 01:19 pm
aidan wrote:
I don't believe kids really create (or even participate in the creation of) this stuff though, do you? The thoughts are just a little too cohesive and the presentation just a little too slick.

The kids drawings themselves? http://objectiveministries.org/kidz/art4.html
That's what daily brainwashing can REALLY do to kids.

aidan wrote:
this stuff is kind of scary when you think of the fact that it's what kids are reading.

The fact that kids are exposed to this at a very young age makes those things MUCH more likely to persist into adulthood.
That's why there are people out there who believe that the earth is less than 10,000 years old! Just ask "Professor Giraffenstein" about dinosaurs on this page: http://objectiveministries.org/kidz/

Shocked Confused
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 5 Mar, 2007 01:27 pm
Which is one reason I would rather talk religion with an atheist than with a 'believer'.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Mon 5 Mar, 2007 01:34 pm
Mr Gruff's kinda cute.
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aidan
 
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Reply Mon 5 Mar, 2007 01:46 pm
But not all "believers" would take Professor Giraffenstein's ( Laughing Laughing ) word as gospel. I'm sincerely curious, maybe I'll research this, I really would like to know what percentage of believers (in any religion, but especially Christianity) actually believe that the world is less than 10,000 years old and all the attendant fables that go along with.

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The fact that kids are exposed to this at a very young age makes those things MUCH more likely to persist into adulthood.

Yeah, especially if they're not exposed to any other information or theories. The good thing is though, that if a kid does go to public school, at least in most parts of the US, they will be exposed to earth science and learn about carbon dating and half lives and see really incontrivertable proof about the age of the earth and the presence of dinosaurs and other evolving species that will prompt them to question. Same when they take biology.

My daughter used to watch Veggietales (this show that used vegetables as characters to communicate christian fables at a friend's house, but she always came home and asked questions. Kids are really curious and questioning, (as a rule) and unless they're just absolutely indoctrinated, or made to be afraid to voice questions, they will always ask "Why" or "How" and if the answer doesn't strike them as logical, they'll continue to ask.
I have a lot of faith in kids-it's the adults who scare me. (And how much you want to bet there were all sorts of adult suggestions as to what the kids should draw to go along with these "lessons for life"? Most kids that age wouldn't even know what an atheist was, unless they were specifically told- so they wouldn't begin to know how to depict one).
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c logic
 
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Reply Mon 5 Mar, 2007 01:49 pm
neologist wrote:
Which is one reason I would rather talk religion with an atheist than with a 'believer'.


Dude! Haven't you learned anything? Atheists are weird and dangerous, and if you don't want to suffer a damaged anus, I highly suggest you stay away from atheists! They're bad seed...
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 5 Mar, 2007 02:01 pm
I keep 'em at bay with well brewed coffee.
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c logic
 
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Reply Mon 5 Mar, 2007 02:01 pm
aidan wrote:
I'm sincerely curious, maybe I'll research this, I really would like to know what percentage of believers (in any religion, but especially Christianity) actually believe that the world is less than 10,000 years old and all the attendant fables that go along with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_aw1O6nyms (towards the end)
You won't like the numbers... 45% of people in the United States.
"Scary" would be an understatement...
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 5 Mar, 2007 02:04 pm
neologist wrote:
Which is one reason I would rather talk religion with an atheist than with a 'believer'.


Yeah, but yer just weird . . .

Is that Columbian coffee?
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c logic
 
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Reply Mon 5 Mar, 2007 02:05 pm
neologist wrote:
I keep 'em at bay with well brewed coffee.


Haha, not a bad idea at all.
You are walking a very thin line though, I guess you like to live dangerously.
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aidan
 
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Reply Mon 5 Mar, 2007 03:41 pm
c_logic wrote:
aidan wrote:
I'm sincerely curious, maybe I'll research this, I really would like to know what percentage of believers (in any religion, but especially Christianity) actually believe that the world is less than 10,000 years old and all the attendant fables that go along with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_aw1O6nyms (towards the end)
You won't like the numbers... 45% of people in the United States.
"Scary" would be an understatement...


I'm starting to get really nervous to move back there. It sounds like things have changed since I've been away...
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 5 Mar, 2007 03:48 pm
Your figures are flawed, c_logic. That stat is being discussed in another thread today. In fact, the question asked in that survey read:

God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so?

In a 1982 Gallup poll, 45% of Americans selected that in response to the question:

Which of the following statements comes closest to your views on the origin and development of human beings?

Youtube is hardly a reliable source for such matters. The option for answering the question which was selected by 45% of Americans polled show only that they believe that human beings were created "pretty much in their present form" at some time within the last 10,000 years. That's 10,000 years, not 6,000 years, and says nothing about what they believe the age of the earth to be.

However, there is no doubt that a large number of Americans wallow in religiously-inspired ignorance, and prefer to have a mealy-mouthed preacher do their thinking for them.
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c logic
 
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Reply Mon 5 Mar, 2007 08:09 pm
Setanta wrote:
Your figures are flawed, c_logic. That stat is being discussed in another thread today. In fact, the question asked in that survey read:

God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so?

In a 1982 Gallup poll, 45% of Americans selected that in response to the question:

Which of the following statements comes closest to your views on the origin and development of human beings?

Youtube is hardly a reliable source for such matters. The option for answering the question which was selected by 45% of Americans polled show only that they believe that human beings were created "pretty much in their present form" at some time within the last 10,000 years. That's 10,000 years, not 6,000 years, and says nothing about what they believe the age of the earth to be.

However, there is no doubt that a large number of Americans wallow in religiously-inspired ignorance, and prefer to have a mealy-mouthed preacher do their thinking for them.


Good catch. I took Dawkins' word for it on Youtube, but there is always a possibility to come across misleading figures (even from a well-respected guy like Richard Dawkins). But, nevertheless, there is no doubt that a large percentage of Americans believe exactly what the Bible says, every single word. As long as this percentage is greater than 0%, it's certainly mind boggling.
IMO, if the figure is not 45%, it would still have to be pretty close, since "God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so". In other words, if you buy into that idea, believing that the universe is less than 10,000 years old is a piece of cake. I'm curious as to what the reasons are why somebody would reject the cake... Overwhelming evidence in favor of the Big Bang theory? Overwhelming fossil/prehistoric evidence?
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2007 06:14 am
Yes, we unbelievers should be feared, because we just might reveal to the poor kids that their religion is actually a bunch of propaganda. BOOOO!

What about this one. Such brainwhashed poor children. We should take it upon ourselves to save these poor little ones from the propaganda of christianity.. Twisted Evil

http://objectiveministries.org/kidz/art/kidzart-wewerebad.png
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aidan
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2007 06:36 am
Laughing Laughing
What do you think is up with the square eyes and glasses. Any ideas about symbolism there?
Also, what could an elephant do to deserve hell?
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c logic
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2007 07:46 am
aidan wrote:
Also, what could an elephant do to deserve hell?

Well, it's quite simple... Elephants remember!
Apparently they don't remember much about Jesus though, so it's straight to hell for them! Buhuhahahha!!! Twisted Evil
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