THE BRITISH THREAD II

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What points?

1- The equating a cigarette with a smouldering refuse tip was underhand and a lie.

2- That you abuse our trust by finding an incident involving a "heavy" smoker and even then blithely assuming that the problem reported by a member of the claque was caused by that and not something else just on his/her sayso.

3- That you have no proof that passive smoking does anybody any harm and that it is a lie to assert, on no scientific evidence, that it does.

4- That '14-'18 soldiers, airmen and sailors would have despised these fear-raddled do-gooders freaking out at the aroma of tobacco smoke.

5- That this fear is often faked in order to gain power to officiously order everybody about in humiliating circumstances.

6- That they won't go away now they have this victory.

7- That smoking deaths, through abuse mainly, are much cheaper for the NHS than the long drawn out declines of people into their 80s and 90s.

8- That non smokers get fat and obese and present the NHS with another set of difficulties.

9- That non-smokers are crap company.

10- That nicotine inhibits degenerative brain disease and stimulates creativity which we need to prosper.

11- That candlelit dining out should be outlawed on your own arguments along with a lot of other stuff.

12- That passive driving has killed and maimed millions of people for sure and thus unauthorised driving should be banned forthwith.

13- That your excessive concern for our health is a club to beat us with and actually you don't give a shite and that if you do give a shite but not for victims of passive bargain hunting in the sweatshops of the world then you are objectively a dyed-in-the-wool racist and value human life on a sliding scale with yours at 100 and a coolie on zero.

14- That the ban is an attack on freedom.

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THERAPEUTIC EFFECTS OF SMOKING AND NICOTINE.

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But really-when all is said and done- it is so humiliating.

The idea that I need a bunch of scientists, whose motives I can easily determine from an honest appraisal of my own, to tell me how to live is just about as humiliating as humiliating gets.

It is as if I have no brains of my own and that is detrimental to my self-respect and anything of that nature is bound to affect the immune system and leave me vulnerable to whatever comes first.

The very idea that these f*****g boffins know better than I do how I should live my one and only life is so far off my agenda as to be out of f*****g sight.

Backing for UK waters smoking ban
11 July 2007 | 14:35

PROPOSALS to ban smoking on all ships sailing in UK waters have been greeted with widespread support.

With new restrictions on smoking in public places now in force, ministers are now looking at putting in place a similar ban on all vessels with crews and passengers sailing up to 12 miles off the coast and on inland waterways.

It would not just apply to UK registered ships but to ships of any flags, and those visiting Felixstowe and other UK ports come from all over the world

Following a consultation exercise on the idea, the government is now set to follow it up with a set of draft regulations for further comment this autumn and hopes to bring in a new law next year.

"We received a very positive reaction to our plans to introduce restrictions to sea going and inland waterways vessels," said a Department of Transport spokesman.

"Very few respondents took issue with the proposals and most clearly recognised the health benefits associated with reduced exposure to second hand smoke and were keen to see clear unambiguous regulations introduced."

The consultation asked for comments on how the rules should be enforced and what penalties should apply.

Lawyers have assured government it will be within its rights to enforce smoking bans on ships of other nations sailing in UK waters.

The consultation received 45 responses from interested organisations in the maritime industry - with 40 supporting the proposals.

It was felt by some that while smoking in work and communal areas, including sleeping quarters, should be banned, there would still need to be areas on board where people could smoke away from fellow seafarers - especially as people stay on ships for months.

However, it was felt some vessels were unsuitable for smoking on deck and in some cases smoking on deck is fully restricted.

One idea to be investigated is the possibility of designating some cabins for smokers.

"There was agreement amongst most consultees that the benefits would not only include the improved health of workers but would also lead to a more pleasant working environment," said the Dft spokesman.

"Most felt that this would be difficult to quantify in money but in any case would outweigh any potential costs identified.

"The costs were considered to be minimal unless modifications were needed to the structure of a vessel to provide adequate ventilation for areas where smoking is permitted."

Shipping union Nautilus UK felt workers should be protected from second hand smoke wherever they are in the world and that other Health and Safety legislation does not stop applying once a vessel has left UK territorial waters.

the health benefits associated with reduced exposure to second hand smoke

there would still need to be areas on board where people could smoke away from fellow seafarers

Don't be a good little, good little boy
Being as good as you can
And agreeing with all the mealy-mouthed, mealy mouthed truths
That the sly trot to protect themselves
And their greedy mouthed, greedy mouthed cowardice.
Every old lout.

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