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THE BRITISH THREAD II

 
 
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2010 04:58 am
@McTag,
I agree it is a matter of importance Mac but is it as important as this--

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/article7070174.ece

or differentials in infant mortality rates?
McTag
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2010 03:21 am
@spendius,

Germaine Greer is always readable. But why are you gettings involved with gender politics?

Overpoplation is our biggest problem, leading to food and water shortages, to wars, acute immigration problems, deforestation, loss of productive land, and indirecty to climate change.
And shortage of females in China and India, leading to social unreast there.

If by "differentials in infant mortality rates" you indicate you would like to see more people grow to maturity, you might be a turkey voting for Christmas.
Francis
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2010 03:28 am
McT wrote:
Overpoplation is our biggest problem,


You mean that you have too many poplars in the UK?

I'd say it's not a very poplar topic..

(Sorry, McT, I just have to had my daily rise out of someone, my share of laugh for the day, the confirmation that life is beautiful)
McTag
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2010 03:30 am
@Francis,

Your apology might be accepted after I have my next cup of coffee.
Francis
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2010 03:49 am
@McTag,
Take two cups on me, McT..
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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2010 05:04 am
@McTag,
Quote:
But why are you gettings involved with gender politics?


For the same reason my literary heroes did--in defence of men whose spokepersons seem to have become emasculated these days.

Laurence Sterne wrote-

Quote:
Always carry it in thy mind, and act upon it, as a sure maxim, Toby------
"That women are timid: And 'tis well they are-----else there would be no dealing with them.


It is in the letter Mr Shandy wrote to Uncle Toby giving him instructions on how he should attempt the siege of Widow Wadman which Uncle Toby was to be engaged upon on the following day. (Volume VIII, Chapter XXXIV).

I also think that defending men is also to defend women because I can't see women benefitting from their being impossible to deal with. Obviously those men who reject such advice call me a misogynist but they are the real misogynists.

James Boswell, your illustrious countryman wrote--

Quote:
Who has not Tristram Shandy read?
Is any mortal so ill bred?


Quote:
If by "differentials in infant mortality rates" you indicate you would like to see more people grow to maturity, you might be a turkey voting for Christmas.


Everyone conceived should have that chance which does not mean more people growing to maturity. Notice how you have accepted that the number of conceptions is a given about which nothing can be done except by un-natural means all of which are inimical to the welfare of women.

oolongteasup
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2010 05:18 am
@spendius,
Quote:
inimical to the welfare of women


unusual conception
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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2010 09:10 am
@spendius,

Quote:
Notice how you have accepted that the number of conceptions is a given about which nothing can be done except by un-natural means all of which are inimical to the welfare of wom


How do you know what I have accepted? You don't.

Quote:
Everyone conceived should have that chance which does not mean more people growing to maturity


It doesn't? I had assumed you were talking about improved conditions.
So are you advocating organised slaughter? Without the inconvenience and expense of wars? Say, for all on reaching the age of 25?
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2010 11:12 am
@McTag,
Quote:
How do you know what I have accepted? You don't.


Well Mac--I think your previous statement accepts it. It is the foundation of real misogyny that the male expects to get it off at little or no inconvenience to himself. That conception is the normal outcome of sexual intimacy unless artificial means are preventing it. There are natural means of preventing it.

Quote:
It doesn't? I had assumed you were talking about improved conditions.
So are you advocating organised slaughter? Without the inconvenience and expense of wars? Say, for all on reaching the age of 25?


That is plain silly Mac. Even a Darwinian or a Malthusian couldn't find a method of acheiving such an outcome.

I think everyone conceived should have a chance of reaching maturity. I didn't address the issue of how many people should be conceived. That is a very complex matter once the Chinese solution is rejected.

Huxley invented the "hatchery" to avoid those complexities. It was a literary conceit.

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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2010 12:25 pm

A good old tale recounted in The Guardian today:

Alf Ramsey to Rodney Marsh, a gifted but lazy player:

"If you don't work harder for the team, I'm pulling you off at halftime."

Marsh to the manager

"At Manchester City we only get an orange and a cup of tea, boss."
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 25 Mar, 2010 02:15 pm
@McTag,
I don't suppose Alf understood it Mac.

Did you see the one I put on the Bad Joke thread last night about Peter Crouch. That was a bit naughty.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 26 Mar, 2010 03:37 am
In case you don't know what to do at the forthcoming general elections - just pray.
McTag
 
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Reply Fri 26 Mar, 2010 03:28 pm
@Walter Hinteler,

You mean priests can just get prayers off the internet? How poor is that?

I think at least in the Church of Scotland they write their own, or just ad-lib.
Otherwise what are all these D.D.s for?
Spendy, I'm not talking about bra sizes here.
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Francis
 
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Reply Fri 26 Mar, 2010 03:38 pm
McT wrote:
Spendy, I'm not talking about bra sizes here.

Oh, what a pity! Such a topic would help to wake me up..
McTag
 
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Reply Fri 26 Mar, 2010 04:42 pm
@Francis,

Yes. I mean no.

Pray observe the magnanimity
They display to lace and dimity!
Never was such opportunity
To get married with impunity!
But they give up the felicity
Of unbounded domesticity,
Though a doctor of divinity
Is located in this vicinity
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McTag
 
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Reply Mon 29 Mar, 2010 03:36 pm

My goodness, how strange:

The EU's trademarks authority has permitted a German firm to brew beer and produce clothing under the name "******* Hell". It may be an expletive in English, but in German it could refer to a light ale -- Hell -- from the Austrian town of *******. Whether it will be brewed there is another question.

The European Union trademarks authority has permitted a German firm to register the brand name "******* Hell" for a new beer, much to the irritation of the Austrian village of *******.


In English, the term "******* Hell" is just an expletive used to express irritation or surprise. In German, it could refer to a light ale from ******* in Upper Austria, because "Hell" is a term for light ale in southern Germany and Austria.

The problem is that ******* has no brewery, and the town's mayor, Franz Meindl, is not aware of any plans to build one there, Austrian public broadcaster ORF reported on its Web site.

The Trade Marks and Designs Registration Office of the European Union said in a statement that it had rejected a complaint that the trade mark "******* Hell" was upsetting, accusatory and derogatory.

"The word combination claimed contains no semantic indication that could refer to a certain person or group of persons. Nor does it incite a particular act. It cannot even be understood as an instruction that the reader should go to hell," the Office said in its statement.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 29 Mar, 2010 05:38 pm
@McTag,
Do you not remember the footballer who caused Mr Wolstenholme so much trouble on the commentary. Kunt was his name.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 29 Mar, 2010 05:41 pm
@spendius,
And there's Kaka who is a hot striker and a bit wick in the penalty area.
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 04:06 am
@spendius,

Quote:
Do you not remember the footballer who caused Mr Wolstenholme so much trouble on the commentary. Kunt was his name.


I do indeed. I remember Frank Skinners's song:

"We wanted them to play like Pele
But instead they played like Kunz"
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 04:13 am

Do you know what, I think this modern word "*******" is a misapprehension by the chattering classes of the basis of their own language.
I think like such old words as woollen, sodden, olden, hodden etc, as an adjective it should properly be "fucken". And that's how it's said in Glasgow.
 

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